The only OOS public schools that will meet full need are UNC, UVA and Michigan. I would add Lehigh to the list in addition to the schools that have been suggested. I believe Lehigh meets full need now. If you decide to apply you will have to show interest.
Admissions
Very difficult to get in (31.1% acceptance rate)
One of the top average SAT scores (1975 out of 2400)
Cost & Aid
Extremely expensive tuition ($48,090 USD)
Relatively low percent of freshmen receive grants (61%)
Graduation Rate & Salary
Very high graduation rate (85% in 6 years)
Very high median salary 10 years after graduation ($59,900 USD)
Academics
Wide program selection (63 programs)
Most popular majors:
- Business Administration and Management, General
- Law
- Accounting
Student Body & Faculty
Very large university (4,181 undergrad & grad students)
Very large undergrad population (3,329 students)
More female students (55% female - 45% male)
Great student-faculty ratio (8:1)
Small class sizes (mostly 10-19 students)
Institution
Semester calendar
Private (Not-for-Profit) institution
President: Ronald A. Crutcher
Early decision school (November 15 deadline)
Locale
Locale type: midsize city
Hot summer (77°F average)
Cold winter weather (40°F average)
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The above is from www.startclass.com for University of Richmond.
It is VERY difficult to get in (31% acceptance) and ONLY 61% of freshman receive financial aid.
Is the ‘less than $30,000 income’ for one parent or both parents (Single? Divorced? Remarried?)?
Sorry OT, but I have to laugh at “cold winter” in post #21. Average of 40 F sounds great to me living in PA.
Is the $30,000 income before or after taxes…and for what year?
Thank you all for the insight and help!
@thumper1 It is after taxes and will stay pretty stable (its social security)
@DadTwoGirls UNR would require me to live in a dorm but not UNLV. I will be applying to both UNR and UNLV. I’m looking out of state because of the possible good CS programs like at UW.
@Madison85 Both parents
@golfdude71 @ReappeaR
While a lot of good info. was provided in post #21, and URichmond’s admit rate was 31% last year, the average ACT score for admitted students was 32, so OP’s score is certainly in range. UR will also consider HS course rigor and ECs, essays, interest, etc.
UR’s new president as of last year, Ronald Crutcher, and UR’s board are trying to increase numbers of minority and low income students at UR.
UR is actually on the low end of medium sized schools sizewise, I dont agree with the above assessments of “Very large university (4,181 undergrad & grad students and
Very large undergrad population (3,329 students”.
As far as tuition and financial aid go, looking solely at overall percentages does not show the full picture for individual students. Yes, the sticker price tuition rate at UR is high, but they meet 100% of demonstrated need for admitted students, and can do so with their very large endowment. So if a low income student’s demonstrated need is the full cost of attendance, that individual student’s will be met with a large institutional Grant, federal student loan of $5500, and usually some work study (work study jobs are easy to get at UR). Higher income students with no demonstrated need, will receive $0 in grants. So the “ONLY 61% of freshman receive financial aid.” Listed above, had 100 % of their need met, and the remaining 39% of freshman had 0% demonstrated financial need, so were not awarded any grants.
I think that low income students often fall into the trap of applying only to colleges with lower sticker prices, when they should also add some more expensive, higher sticker price private colleges which meet a high percentage of demonstrated need to their application lists. In the end, the higher sticker price colleges can end up being cheaper for a low income student.
Don’t write off all LACs and privates based on sticker price alone. Dig deeper into financial aid info., endowments, percentage of need met, as you build your application list.
Be aware that CS at many schools is more competitive than admission to the school overall. At some schools, you may be admitted to the schools, but not the CS major, and have to apply to a competitive secondary admission process to get into the CS major later.
If you want to go OOS, then you need to apply to some OOS PRIVATES that “meet need” for its students and the tiny number of OOS publics that meet need for OOS students.
Of course also apply to UNR and UNLV as your back ups since you’ll likely get merit from them, too and a couple of OOS publics that will give you HUGE merit for your stats.
What is your major and career goal?
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Yes Washington.
Do those schools not have merit scholarships for OOS students I could attempt to get?
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UWash gives small merit scholarships to OOS students. Certainly not anywhere near enough for your need.
UCLA…even if you increased your test score, you wouldn’t get enough merit. Even if you increased to a perfect score, you’d still be left with about $25k per year that YOUR FAMILY would have to pay plus full loans…obviously not happening.
@mamag2855 : Thank you for the info! I am looking at a few private colleges but they tend to be more competitive.
@ucbalumnus : I’m aware of that, I’m keeping a watch out for that.
@mom2collegekids : Thank you for the information concerning U-dub and UCLA! I want to go into cyber-security and I’m seeking a computer science degree.
UNM’s Amigo Scholarship for OOS students: https://scholarship.unm.edu/scholarships/non-resident.html
Pays $14987 towards OOS tuition plus $200/year stipend for expenses (basically gives you in-state tuition rates)
Minimum requirements: ACT 23 (SAT 1130) and a 3.5 GPA OR ACT 26 (1240 SAT) and a 3.0 GPA. (GPAs are unweighted)
Renewable for 4 years with 3.0 GPA taking 15 credits hours each semester enrolled.
UNM also participates in the WUE (Western Undergraduate Exchange program). See:[Western Undergraduate Exchange Program]( Save On College Tuition | Western Undergraduate Exchange (WUE)) Computer science is an eligible major.
WUE students pay 1.5 times the resident rate on tuition. WUE Plus students pay in-state residents rate for tuition.
UNM
Instate tuition & fees – $6950 (2 semesters)
Room &board (traditional dorm) – $9472 (2 semesters
Another school to consider for comp sci that is WUE eligible is NM Tech--small engineering school in Socorro, NM.
<a href="http://www.nmt.edu/scholarships-financial-aid/50-financial-aid/financial-aid/183-scholarships-a-tuition-reduction-programs-for-non-residents">http://www.nmt.edu/scholarships-financial-aid/50-financial-aid/financial-aid/183-scholarships-a-tuition-reduction-programs-for-non-residents</a>
Tech Competitive Scholarship for OOS freshmen-- Pay in-state tuition & fee rates plus a $700/year stipend
Minimum requirements: ACT 27 or SAT 1280 plus 3.25 unweighted GPA.
NM TECH WUE scholarship--pay 1.5 times NM resident rate for tuition & fees
Minimum requirements: 23 ACT or 1130 SAT plus 3.0 unweighted GPA
NM TECH
Tech instate tuition & fees--$7184 (2 semesters)
Room & board -- $8202 (2 semesters)
Both UNM and NM Tech have good comp sci departments and both send student interns to the National Labs (Sandia National Lab in ABQ, Los Alamos National Lab in Los Alamos), the AF Engineering Lab on Kirtland Base (ABQ) and White Sands Missile Test Range (Alamogordo)
SNL has a robust cybersecurity research program--<a href="http://www.sandia.gov/careers/career_possibilities/cyber_security.html">http://www.sandia.gov/careers/career_possibilities/cyber_security.html</a>
So does LANL--<a href="http://csr.lanl.gov">http://csr.lanl.gov</a>@WayOutWestMom : Wow! Thanks for all the info. I’ll consider them.
@ReappeaR
I just noticed your stats. You’d be eligible for the UNM Regents’ Scholarship for OOS students.
Requires a 31 ACT and 3.9 GPA.
The Regents is more than a full ride. Value $18, 337/year. Full in-state tuition & fees (OOS differential is waived), full room & board and ~$2000 for personal expenses, books, travel.
Regent Scholars get all kinds of special perks–special housing, early course registration, special seminars. personal mentoring by faculty.
3.3 GPA required to maintain the scholarship, and there is a community service is requirement. (10 hours/year)
[UNM Regent Scholar Handbook](https://scholarship.unm.edu/Resources/regents-scholarship-handbook.pdf)
I am curious why you are focused on public colleges. Public schools have great rates for in-state students. But if you are looking out of state anyway, your best bargain may be at a private college! Many private colleges have great financial aid for a student at your income level. You might end up paying less at a private college than you would at your in-state public college, and it is probable that you would pay less at a private college than at a public college for which you are an out-of-state student.
You might want to look at which colleges meet demonstrated need, and see which would be at a good selectivity level for you as well as a good fit for what you want your college experience to be like.
Private colleges that 'meet need’actually WANT more students from oos. As a high stats student from Nevada (an under represented state) you will be in high demand.
First, look at Questbridge. Definitely apply. If selected, they guarantee a 4-year, full ride to a top college. All colleges that promise this are ‘reaches’ and ALL are elite. No matter where you end up you’ll have challenging classes, outstanding professors, and a great network.
Second, look at UMDCP AND UMDBC, see if you meet their criteria for merit aid.
Third, focus on 'meet need’colleges not on Questbridge. A really good one for you would be Georgetown but you need to have three subject tests - contact your gc to get your fee waivers and register for the August tests, picking your top three subjects. English literature is an easy one to choose if you don’t have three favorites.
Fourth, get a Fiske guide from your public library and start reading. Write down all universities and LACs that around good to you. An advantage to LACs is that there’s no pre selection for CS.
Fifth, read the website ‘essay hell’ and see if specialists on this website would be okay reading your essays.
Sixth…consider those scholarships in NM.
Colleges offering financial aid will also look at your parents assets. You should check with them to see if they have savings outside of their qualified retirement accounts.
@AlbionGirl this student says in me is less than $30,000 a year. It is very possible that this student qualifies for an auto $0 EFC per fafsa…and if so…assets would not be included…at all.