<p>It is not the school censoring them whatsoever. They are not being censored to begin with. There are many individuals on campus who do not agree with the majority at ND but it is up to them if they stay of leave. if they want to be a bunch of whiney b!tch es and complain of censorship then fine. The only way one can reasonably state the U is censoring students is through the act of expulsion/suspension or asking them the to leave the school due to actions/writings/social choices/etc - which for the latter, only occurs if there is an unwed pregnant woman on campus. which as being a catholic school, teaching catholic ideals - clearly stated in du lac - allows them to carry out such policies. if the U let accepted them, due to their liberal or variant characteristics, it was because they wanted the diversity - which although ND lacks in comparison to other institutions - they strive to diversify more. It is just the nature of classification which enables ND to admit more students who agree with the U’s fundamental beliefs mostly bc that is the majority of who apply. </p>
<p>to reiterate - if a student goes there and finds their ideals are dissimilar to that of their peers then move on or suck it up. That’s life. It’s no surprise ND is a bubble and very conservative - they should have realized and taken that into account prior to enrolling. But to say that ND censors their students and/or faculty is ludicrous propaganda from a pretentious coastie.</p>
<p>Is it censoring that most conservatives and traditionalists would feel uncomfortable and have to self-censor at, say, Berkeley? The sword cuts both ways…</p>
<p>Deuspatri, the citation your provide regarding pregnant unwed mothers is incorrect. The only policy is that pregnant students are not permitted to stay in the standard undergraduate dorms, and the policy is driven by the belief that such a place is not suitable for a pregnant student or her baby. They are encouraged and given priority to live at University Village, which is a housing complex designed for married couples with children, married couples without children, and unmarried students raising children. </p>
<p>Probably not that important to note, but a dispelling of rumor nonetheless.</p>
<p>Kevdude - Thanks for the clarification. From what I’m seen, Notre Dame is very willing to assist the students and I was surprised that Notre Dame would expel a student rather than assist.</p>
<p>i apologize for the misquote. From my understanding, about 20 yrs ago, they did have such a policy on campus. But assuming it was still in effect was hypocritical, as i previously inferred ND is progressing in values to keep up with modern culture. But yes you are right, ND is very accommodating to students. I though came under the impression that when a woman begins to show greatly, she is asked to stay off campus, potentially for the safety of the child, but also for the image it portrays. Idk which is the more prominent ideal.</p>
<p>honestabclee,
Now, don’t throw stones. Seems to me that Stanford had a less than successful visit to Winston-Salem this past weekend. Don’t be a hater.</p>
<p>^thanks! Hopefully, this thread can get back to the main topic w/o the incessant jeers and attacks. Can we all agree to have a “grown-up” discussion?</p>
<p>The Michigan game was huge. A win and the team gets some confidence and gets on a good run.</p>
<p>They could see another four losses among - Mich St, USC, Pitts, UConn, BC, Stanford</p>
<p>The other problem is the future Rich Rodriquez’s teams usually get better and the quarterback is only a freshman. It could be a long 3 years against USC and Mich.</p>
<p>One thing I like very much about Notre Dame football is, if you can’t keep up with the academic workload of the University, you gotta go. See Darrin Walls. It sure would have been nice to have him in the defensive backfield last year. It was nice to see him enroll again this year, hope he can finish up his degree. </p>
<p>Not sure about admission requirements for athletes at ND. I know it is higher than most D1 schools, but at most(all) schools it is a joke. </p>
<p>It’s also nice to see Notre Dame and the service academies at the top of the graduation rates for CFB year after year.</p>
<p>And ND has a pretty good team to top it all off.</p>
<p>The games themselves have been disconcerting enough, but those widescreen images of Charlie on the sidelines reviewing the foot-long sub menu really don’t help matters.</p>
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<p>Kind of. I think (and I’m pretty sure this is right) that everyone has to graduate in 4 years or lose their scholarship. Most ND players finish up, as evidenced by the graduation rate in the 90s. But if you finish up in 4 years and still have a year of football eligibility, then you can come back for a 5th year, but I think you have to enroll in grad school. </p>
<p>Then of course, there are a few, though kind of rare in todays college athletic world, kids who will graduate in 3 years. They are still allowed to play, but again, have to enrolled in grad school at ND. </p>
<p>I’m pretty sure thats it, but I’m not 100%.</p>