Got a 4 on exam, but a B in the class.

<p>I know a 4 is considered an A-, B, B- in College Board terms, but I know kids in my class who failed the exam, but aced the class.</p>

<p>It's not a matter of not doing work. I turned in everything and didn't miss any classes, except for a couple days when I went to All-State.
My AP World teacher didn't rave about my essays; I never received higher than a 5, which is basically a C-. I still don't understand why. Comparing essays with a friend who always receives 9s, it's hard to differentiate between them when using the guidelines. And he got a 4 on the exam, as well.</p>

<p>So, I was wondering if asking for an A in the class would be too much to ask for/rude/somehow unethical and morally unjustified?
Because I want to take action if it means saving my GPA...</p>

<p>well it depends on ur teacher. some teachers change grades cuz u aced the ap test, some dont. i know someone in my apush class that is going to aim for c then get a 5 on the test cuz my teacher will give an A to anyone who gets a 5 on the test.</p>

<p>Hm, that would suck if your friend didn't get that 5.
Do you think it'd be an annoyance to bring this up with my teacher over email?</p>

<p>The worst that can happen (unless you have that teacher again) is that your teacher says, "No".</p>

<p>I have a policy about bumping grades based on AP scores, but I've never bumped a student to an A based on it. The philosophy being that grades and
AP scores, while related, are not necessarily going to be one and the same.</p>

<p>That being said, every year I have a student or two who asks the question. None of them have ever gotten a "Yes", but I can't blame them for asking.</p>

<p>If you do ask, though, be careful not to push too hard. If the answer is "No" then the answer is "No".</p>

<p>As long as you didn't view your student negatively for trying... I'm all for it.
Thanks for the reply, TheMathProf.</p>

<p>Please, I got a 5 on the AP Physics exam and a straight up B overall. I highly doubt your teacher will change the grade. If he does, congratulations, you are among the statistics of high schools that unjustifiably inflate grades.</p>

<p>Oh ho, you think your situations suck? I got a D first semester and A second semester for my AP Physics class because none of my work was on time, but nonetheless I almost always set the grading curves for the tests(this is mostly my fault I know). Anyways I get a 4 on the test which students at my school rarely ever get in that subject and my teacher still refuses to change my grade. And now I get to apply to colleges this year with THAT on my transcript, oh well wish me luck (or not cos its my fault)</p>

<p>Heh, my sister's boyfriend got an F in the class but a 4 on the exam. Then he had to retake the class the next year even though he got a 4.</p>

<p>That's completely your fault buffettime...rofl..</p>

<p>TheProtagonist - It's not necessarily inflating a grade. If anything, the grade change would still accurately portray the grade I got on the exam.
The unfortunate fact of which the students failed the exam, yet aced the class is not justifiable, either.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your grades, I really am. I just don't want to regret NOT taking any action and do nothing about it. I can at least be satisfied knowing I tried even if he doesn't change the grade.</p>

<p>buffettime: I'm sorry your teacher refused to change your grade because you failed to turn in your assignments on time, which, you said yourself, (reiterating what llpitch said) is your fault. What point were you trying to make?</p>

<p>SharkObsessed: What did/didn't he do for that F? Ouch.
Too bad he didn't self-study. Seems like the class didn't administer much help if he got an F.</p>

<p>@ urticaria:
He didn't turn in the final exam. It was a notebook or something and he never turned it in at all, not even for partial credit. Therefore, he failed the entire semester and had to retake it with all the juniors who got to laugh at him. Plus he still ended up with a C when he retook it. He is a major slacker, I dunno how he got into college... He has more fun playing his PSP than passing classes.</p>

<p>I have no pity for my sister's boyfriend. My sister worked on the notebook with him and asked him repeatedly if he had turned it in and he ignored her. She reminded him every other day a MONTH before the end of school and he still never turned it in.</p>

<p>You need to relax, bro. This might not be something you want to hear, but GPA difference of one class isn't going to be a deciding factor for any college. </p>

<p>And though this may be mean, I don't know if I can sympathize with you. I got several 5's last year, but B's or C's in all the classes; though I didn't try in some, I did try in English, and my teacher didn't like my style of writing, like your teacher didn't like yours. Part of the learning experience is learning to adapt. </p>

<p>But in essence, it probably isn't worth the effort to confront the teacher with a B to A. If they were going to do it, it would have been done already. It wasn't, so let it be.</p>

<p>Adagah - It wasn't mean at all. And yes, I know a B in a class is not going to be the deciding factor for a college; that'd be ridiculous. The college I want to go to doesn't even take AP World as credit.
I was interested in similar experiences, that being a grade difference, since I didn't see any threads on this topic in the few pages that I skimmed through :-)
Thanks.</p>

<p>Hahah wow, I didn't know people actually asked their teachers for a bump on their grade just because of their AP test. All my old teachers would laugh at me if I ever asked them that.</p>

<p>At my school it's not uncommon for students to have As but get 1s on exams. I know one student with Cs, Ds, and Fs who gets higher scores than many students with As. It's a shame that teachers aren't really qualified to do a better job, but I suppose you work with what you have.</p>

<p>My freshman year I had a bad AP teacher and was one of the very few to score a 3 on the exam (everyone failed because she didn't cover anything appropriate), and I got a B (many failing students got As). I didn't get the A that I (initially) worked for because out of ~20 assignments she would collect in a grading period, she would only end up grading a random 3-4 due to "time constraints." Unbelievably unfair, and not a good tone set for high school. The next grading period I ended up slacking off a lot more. I still got a B that grading period. I'm just thankful now that it was a B and not something arbitrarily lower!</p>

<p>Eloquence - Yeah, it happens. It's actually quite funny, because the same teacher bumped up a classmate's grade and she got a 2 on the exam. :-)</p>

<p>JoeTrumpet - "It's a shame that teachers aren't really qualified to do a better job, but I suppose you work with what you have."
Such a true statement. Except my teacher was phenomenal in the classroom; he knew his stuff. But when it came to grading, he wouldn't collect some of the homework we worked hours typing, and his grading wouldn't make sense. So I guess our teachers are of foils of each other. I don't know which one's better...
I'm sorry about your experiences with that teacher. I wonder what qualifies a person to teach AP... Must not take a whole lot.</p>

<p>At my school, a major in a somewhat-related field is enough (such as my AP Econ teacher with a major in history).</p>

<p>I agree that it does not take anything to qualify as an AP teacher. Most of my AP teachers are the stupidest people ever. My calculus teacher was a so bad that almost no one got 5 on the Calc BC test. Although 44% of people get 5s nationally, I believe that I was the only one in the class to do so. She also failed at teaching precal and she made me either grade half the assignments or explain the material to her so she could understand it.</p>

<p>A 4 is representative of a B as a college class, so I don't think you will be able to get an A. The only 2 classes I had Bs in last year were english and apush, and those also happened to be the only 2 APs that I had 4s on.</p>

<p>khoitrinh - "she made me either grade half the assignments or explain the material to her so she could understand it."
Funny, but mostly sad...</p>

<p>Yes, I agree. I was just upset with the kids who aced the class but failed the exam. I guess I was being ungrateful. I should be ecstatic for passing, at least.</p>