<p>Yeah, I read something on another forum about a guy that got a full scholarship to USC and graduated with $100k in debt. Not entirely sure how truthful it was, but there was a thread on the USC forum where a lot of people complained about their 2nd/3rd year FA packages.</p>
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<p>Yes, and it’s 33% of the education fee. That means it’s an increase of about $2000, not 33% of $25k. Most private schools’ tuition will also jump by a similar amount - USC’s tuition increase this past year was actually greater than UCLA’s even after the mid year fee increases (and most people with FA here had the fee increases paid for). I only bring up USC because I happened to look up their fees recently, and it’s the poster boy for private for the sake of private.</p>
<p>I got the number from the financial aid page on the acceptance site. The estimate was $29,702. You’re right, the price isn’t “steadily” increasing, but it is increasing, and I can’t imagine them lowering the price any time soon. And, I’m middle class, so UCLA offered me no financial aid.</p>
<p>I also know that for the most part, competitive enrollment in classes won’t completely ruin a schedule, but I really don’t want to have to deal with that kind of stress while in college. It just seems unnecessary. I’d rather worry about doing well in the classes.</p>
<p>I’m not saying the problems you raised are completely nonissues, but that they are only true to a certain extent. The tuition hike hurt the middle class the most, for students and their families like you and me. I just wanted you to realize, like ThisCouldBeHeavn pointed out, that financial aid packages at private schools aren’t steady either.</p>
<p>Enrollment is really only a two week ordeal every quarter (first and second pass enrollment), and it’s really knowing which specific classes fill up the quickest (Life science, physics, and statistics fill up during first pass, everything else in terms of lower div pre-med pretty much stays open during or after second pass). I have never had the situation where I couldn’t get a class I needed, I only didn’t get a class that I wanted because the classes were either easy A’s, class conflicts, the finals were on the same days, epically awesome teachers, etc. I would imagine that these problems exist on certain levels in other schools as well.</p>
<p>UCLA ISN’T GOOD FOR ANYTHING DONT COME, here’s why:</p>
<p>IT sucks for biz, it doesn’t even have a biz major lol…and if anyone for a moment disputes haas is better then that person is well, u know the rest</p>
<p>It sucks for engineering…not even that great, just go to berkeley for engineering…berekely owns for engineering</p>
<p>UCLA doesn’t even have a good premed/prehealth programs…the chem department is wack…with professors and bitter TAs who didn’t get into med school tryin to mess ur grade up…the competition here is unhealthy…and to top it off IF U LOOK AT THE US NEWS RANKINGS…UCSD is ranked higher in Biological Sciences lol</p>
<p>UCLA a school only if u need to really save money, or u just flat out hate Berkeley, or you just want to party in LA</p>
<p>I’ll respond to the Biz comment. No **** UCLA doesn’t have an undergrad business major. WHY? Because it’s USELESS. No matter what, going into business and being successfull requires an MBA. Why would you get a business degree to get another ****ing business degree??? Only top tier schools with very high ranking students, Ivies, Berkeley, Stanford, etc… have undergrad business programs.</p>
<p>I really don’t care how much UCLA sucks in reality, its name has done wonders for me alone. That seal is really a golden ticket to alot of people.</p>
<p>All the UCs are crazy expensive now. I got almost no aid, so that will probably make me not attend. I’m still waiting for CAL and all of my reaches on April 1st. For my reache sI’ll probably only pay 10,000 at the most, so it’s my backup for now, until my first choice denies me.</p>
<p>^^^ It’s hard to question your logic that the UC’s are “crazy expensive”. The UC’s are one of the most affordable (as in cheapest) public education options, even with the 32% increase. All school is expensive, but that expense is relative</p>
<p>What I meant was that UCs used to be extremely affordable compared to private schools which would cost over 40,000. But now with fantastic financial aid from top schools, its actually cheaper to go to a private than it is a public. Yes compared to other publics, the UCs are cheap, but it used to be that people who couldn’t afford a private would go to a public school. Now private school have become better options than most public schools for certain people. Of course if a person is incredibly rich, and won’t receive any financial aid at all, then a private is more expensive.</p>
<p>Statistics show if a student gets into both UCLA and Cal 65% go to Cal. The business school is excellent. I disagree that having an MBA will hurt someone going for a job over an undergrad from Haas. Businesses can pay an undergrad lower than an MBA student. They can also mold them. My sophomore son is at Cal and chose Cal over UCLA as he was admitted to both. I’m so glad he made that choice even though we live in SoCal. Cal is a great reputation. My current senior boy has been accepted to UCLA and we are waiting for Cal. UCLA is way down on his list.</p>
<p>Sorry, I need to clarify, when I discuss private schools, I mean top schools like Stanford or Yale who have stellar financial aid packages. Right now I’m waiting for those top schools before deciding where to go. I will definitely be paying much less if I go to the privates I applied to. But like you said some like USC don’t give good financial aid, while other LACs give great merit based scholarship money.</p>
<p>Suggestion: People who do not have or are not pursuing a business/economics degree should, and I say this politely, not talk about things that they do not understand.</p>