<p>CSIHSIS, do you mean if she wants to use it as college credit, she should not count it as HS credit?</p>
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When in HS, I took many college courses at nearby universities. The courses were fully independent from my HS, so they did not count towards HS GPA or HS transcript. However, according to recent NACAC admissions surveys, most colleges admissions recalcuate GPA to standardize them and emphasize what is important to them (for example, many well known CA schools do not inlcude freshman year). I’d expect such recalculations included the external college classes taken in HS, which was good for me since my HS GPA was 3.4/3.5, and my external college class GPA was 4.0. The classes were all transferable to the college I attended. Coming in with a year’s worth of credits allowed me to finish a bachelors and masters in under 4 years, as well as start out in higher level math and science classes instead of the intro freshman classes. The latter may have been a bad idea because the transfer college classes I took were generally taught at a lower level than Stanford and covered a bit different material, resulting in getting a weaker foundation than I would have had by repeating the courses (at an accelerated level).</p>
<p>If it’s not part of a dual enrollment agreement, I don’t think you can get any high school credit for it, unless you make some kind of arrangement with the high school to consider it as a high school independent study project. My daughter has college classes that aren’t on her high school transcript, as well as some that are, because those were part of a dual enrollment or independent study agreement.</p>
<p>mathyone, that makes sense. D’s school has some local college instructors teaching courses in HS. In that case, “college course” will count 4.5 in GPA. (regular counts 4, AP counts 5). D wants to do a course that is not in her school. so it won’t count in GPA. It’s a course in a community college. don’t know if it will help her in future, credit-wise. but I still think it’s a good thing to do, because otherwise she wouldn’t get any econ, which is definitely needed when she goes to college.</p>
<p>what high school does with it isnt relevant it is how colleges view rigor. Many will recalc that giving weight to college.</p>
<p>^^actually, few colleges can recalc grades. Think about it: how much effort it would take to redo thousands of transcripts that show up in early Jan. There is no time.</p>
<p>To the OP: our HS will enter a college course on a transcript if asked. But unlike AP’s which are weighted, the college course will only go as is – no GPA bonus.</p>
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<p>Schools that use self-reported courses and grades (e.g. public universities in California and probably some other states) distribute this work to the applicants, so that they can recalculate GPAs using their own methods with no additional effort on their part.</p>
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The NACAC surveys, which included responses from 450 colleges, came to a different conclusion. About half said they recalculated in 2005. More than half said the recalculate in more recent surveys.</p>
<p>yup, ucb, the UC’s and Cal States represent my “few”.</p>
<p>Data: there are ~3000 colleges/universities. It is inconceivable that Admissions offices have the staff to recalc transcripts – it just doesn’t pass the smell test.</p>
<p>450 universities is a good sample size, even if it doesn’t include the majority of colleges in the US. If it is not possible to take the time to enter courses and grades into a computer, how could the majority of a sample of this size (a total of hundreds of universities) say they recalculate? If you search around on the web, you can find specific examples of colleges that recalculate. For example, Stanford and the Cal universities discard freshman year and certain types of courses in their recalculation. An old WSJ (may be out of date) mentions systems for several other top 30 type schools including Emory dropping +/- and removing gym+health, Hopkins dropping freshman year + art, Penn dropping electives, CMU dropping freshman year and using a weighted system, etc. There are wide variety of different grading systems used in different HSs. Some don’t even use a 4.0 GPA system. Many colleges believe standardizing them to a common system and putting apps on a more common field is worth the effort.</p>
<p>SUNYs, University of Florida, and North Carolina State all use self-reported high school courses and grades rather than transcripts.</p>
<p>If a school requests transcripts instead of getting self-reported high school courses and grades, it probably looks at the record holistically, does some sort of recalculation and standardization, or considers only class rank rather than grades or GPA. GPA listed on high school transcripts is not reliable to compare between applicants from different high schools, since not all high schools show unweighted GPA, and there are numerous ways of calculating weighted GPA.</p>
<p>If colleges did trust weighted GPA printed on transcripts, then high schools could game the college admissions for their students by using a weighting system that greatly inflates GPAs.</p>
<p>What is the chance a course like econ taken in HS will be recognized by a good college? My D. will major in something close to international relations. Econ will be a required course or pre-requisite to get in the program. But her high school doesn’t have econ. That’s why we are thinking about this option, just to get prepared. If the college somehow acknowledge it, then it’ll be even better.</p>
<p>Many/most high schools do not offer AP Econ. Thus, I find it hard to believe that it would be an admissions requirement for Frosh. If its a prereq to get into the major, then I would assume that the Uni would prefer to see the student acing that college’s Econ course.</p>
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<p>Exactly. They have time to do nothing else. Think about it. If you were assigned to recalculate thousands of transcripts, some of which are 4.0 scale, some 5.0., some 6.0. some 100 points, some with no grades whatsoever, which show up in your inbox Jan 5, how would YOU accomplish it, with accuracy? More importantly, you would have to be done so the App readers could do their jobs and it all must be completed within ~14 weeks.</p>
<p>btw: Reporting for US News is different. Colleges have all summer and early fall to recalc the transcripts for the admitted and deposited class.</p>