<p>Hi I was looking at the colleges that send a large number of students into top graduate schools in the wallstreet journal thingie and saw all Carleton's peer schools like pomona, colby and middlebury there but no Carleton. Is there any reason why carleton might perform badly in sending students to top grad schools? I was worried because I might be attending Carleton this year</p>
<p>Can you post the article or study to which you refer so that we might help you understand the data?</p>
<p>carlmom, I believe the OP is referring to this article:</p>
<p>This CC thread also deals with the same article:</p>
<p>There are other threads about the rankings. Apparently--and I've only scanned the original article--the methodology of the rankings doesn't look at Ph.D. programs, only MBA, med and law schools.</p>
<p>Thanks limner, that was helpful. C'est Moi: I can assure you that a number of Carleton students matriculate most years into what might be described as top law schools and med schools. My best suggestion is that you directly contact Carleton and ask them for the relevant data. I would be surprised if they don't have it at their fingertips.</p>
<p>Carleton is well known as a top producer of future Ph.D.s, but doesn't do as well as some of the top Eastern and Western schools in terms of getting grads into top law, medical, and business schools.</p>
<p>I wouldn't say that Carleton is bad at getting its grads into top non-PhD grad programs. Not appearing on this ranking is less of a matter of Carleton students getting rejected from Hopkins Med and Sloan and the other schools listed, more a matter of nobody applying in the first place, I think. Also, since Carleton is in the Midwest and a large proportion of students are from the Midwest (or choose to stay here), the only Midwestern programs of the 15 the WSJ looked at were Chicago's MBA program (and MBAs just are not popular with Carleton alums, period), Chicago's law school, and Michigan's law school. It doesn't look like Mac and Grinnell made it on to the list by much, and since they have even smaller student bodies than Carleton, you'd be hard pressed to say that getting 8/406 and 6/337 people (respectively) into the WSJ 15 schools is statistically significantly greater than whatever the figure for Carleton was last year. I know there were at least two girls going to Harvard Law from the class of 2006 from Carleton, but I can't recall any other top non-PhD programs off the top of my head.</p>
<p>Point taken. It depends on how you define "top" and I am defining it with a broader brush than some. You're also right that top in the Midwest is different than top back East. Northwestern and Wisconsin, among others, come to mind and have strong alumni networks in the Great Lakes states.</p>
<p>I think 13 of their top 15 professional programs are in the northeast. There's really no reason why Yale and not WashU med school is included. Same for MBA-Dartmouth, instead of Northwestern, was included as one of their top-5 MBA programs. So there's a heavy bias toward the schools in the east coast. Most people who work for WSJ journals probably come from there anyway and they want to make their alma maters look good in the best possible way.</p>
<p>From CollegeData.com:</p>
<p>Graduate Schools Selected Most Often:<br>
Brown University, University of California--San Diego, University of Chicago, Cornell University, Harvard University, Loyola University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, University of Michigan, University of Minnesota, Princeton University, Stanford University, University of Wisconsin, Yale University. </p>
<p>From Colleges.com:</p>
<p>Graduation information:
List of firms that most frequently hire graduates: Deloitte & Touche, Ernst & Young, General Mills, Mckinsey & Co., Norwest Corp.</p>
<p>List of graduate schools most often selected by recent graduates:
U of California at Berkeley, Harvard U, U of Michigan, U of Minnesota, U of Wisconsin.
17 % of students who go to graduate school immediately.
75 % of students who go to graduate school with in two or more years.</p>
<p>wow thats great. Guess I will be fine there then as long as I work hard and keep up my grades and all. Thanks everyone.</p>
<p>I wonder if Carleton grades aren't a tad lower than some other schools.</p>