Grades

<p>Well first quarter is over and my grades were okay. I got 3 As, 3 B+s and a B.
How would UVA view this?</p>

<p>PS. I'm taking 6 APs so this is another thing to consider.</p>

<p>I'm just worried that they'll think I'm doing badly. I study like 24/7. Is this how senior year is supposed to be or is it just me?</p>

<p>Also does UVA actually deny admissions if your grades go down significantly? And how significantly?</p>

<p>How well do you expect to do at a competitive university if you can't easily dominate high school courses?</p>

<p>Well these are AP courses so actually I expect UVA to be a bit easier since I'll probably only take 5 classes. And I think Bs in APs are actually good. </p>

<p>If I'd taken normal classes or even easier APs I know I'd get straight As....</p>

<p>sciencenerd,</p>

<p>AP courses are equivalent to the lowest level college courses. what makes you think they're harder then college courses?</p>

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Well these are AP courses so actually I expect UVA to be a bit easier since I'll probably only take 5 classes. And I think Bs in APs are actually good.

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<p>hahahahah you're in for a rude surprise, no offense. I took 8 APs over high school, including Calc and Physics and Comp/US Gov't, and now in engineering/my politics classes, I WISH I could go back to AP.</p>

<p>Interesting question. How much weight are semester grades in the admissions process?</p>

<p>Vistany, I like how you ask smart questions instead of putting people down. I enjoy your posts.</p>

<p>yea does anyone have an answer to vistany's question b/c my grades this semester (so far) are 7 A's with 4 Ap's and rest honors but how much does that weigh into the decision for admission ???</p>

<p>How would UVA see my grades?</p>

<p>I know people who are taking easier APs and are getting straight As and that has me frustrated....</p>

<p>mid-year reports they will see grades they r required for ur portfolio for admission</p>

<p>Mid-year reports are automatically sent from my high school to ALL the colleges that I have applied to. Then they send the final transcript to the college you are going to. I believe UVA requires the mid-year grades to be submitted.</p>

<p>UVa does require mid year reports but it is not clear how they factor into admsissions decions. A lot, a little? So far it has proven difficult to clarify.</p>

<p>Oh come on, thats way too harsh. AP's are equivalent to lower-level college courses, but since when have you taken 7 lower level college courses at the same time? Never. Its ridiculous to think that you wont be able to do well in college because you cant get straight A's in 6 AP classes.</p>

<p>Right now, my classes are more difficult than what I had in high school (but my classes are by no means lower-level) and I have more work than I did in high school (less total work, but it takes more time, so more net work) but guess what? I have WAY WAY more time to do it in. Since im not at school from 7-3 I can go to bed much later, sleep in longer and im still home from class around the same time. You have more time than you know what to do with (hint: you should be studying with it).</p>

<p>This may not be his situation, but it was certainly mine. I would spend all day sometimes when I came home from school doing hw (I had 6 AP/IB's and an internship) but I don't think I have done that once since I've been here (if theres one thing IB teaches you its time management) grant it ill be doing it soon with finals coming up and projects to engr wrapping up.</p>

<p>Anyways, I hope I didn't just bore you with personal stories, I do think college is harder than high school but I don't think its as cut and dry as it seems. He will be fine if he works hard in college.</p>

<p>Here is this from Dean J's blog that might shed light on the question:</p>

<p>Notes</a> from Peabody II: The UVA Application Process: Does senior year matter?</p>

<p>I wasn't trying to be harsh, I was just putting college into perspective. His grade's are great for AP, but let's face it, AP's to high schoolers seem difficult (like ehiunno said, you have soo much else going on, it seems like the AP classes are hard...but in reality, if you took an AP class in college, it wouldn't be much more than a 100-200 level class, max, and with so many APs, OP will probably be taking very few intro classes). </p>

<p>I doubt UVa will care a whole lot that you have a slew of B+s. If you're from FFX county, you're fine. Even anywhere else in VA you're good. OOS might be different, but senior grades won't even sink an OOS student if they've remained strong the other three years. One semester versus 6 isn't going to have a huge impact, they just want to make sure you don't go from a 3.8 to a 3.2 senior year.<br>
As for college classes, they will be harder. Can you still get better grades in college? Totally possible because of reasons ehiunno mentioned (more time in your day, less responsibilities, etc). Your grades could drop because the classes get harder/more free time to waste/etc. It's a toss up.</p>

<p>thanks for that link Guillaume puts things in perspective. To me it sounds like rigor and maintaining decent grades is what they are looking for in the mid term report. Anyone see it differently?</p>

<p>Now and then, you will hear a student say that high school was more intense, work wise, than college. Those students aren't the norm, but it does happen.</p>

<p>I think most of you have the idea when you talk about maintaining grades and showing consistency. It's not uncommon to see a slight dip when the course rigor is stepped up a bit (for example, when students move from pre-IB to full IB programs), but if there's dramatic drop in senior year (and I don't mean going from an A to a B), when the curriculum is supposed to be the best prep your school can give you for college level work, admission officers might question how ready you are for the next step.</p>

<p>Remember that you are allowed to send us notes along with your application if you feel as though something needs to be explained. It's fairly common for students to write us to let us know about scheduling conflicts, family issues, or faculty changes. Those notes can help us see the bigger picture when there are inconsistencies in the transcript.</p>

<p>Sciencenerd, hang in there!</p>

<p>Dean J in an electronic application how would a student send a note? Would a separate submission (snailmail) be acceptable?</p>

<p>Most students who write notes seem to have given them to their counselors to include with the credentials that get sent by the school. That's probably the best way to do this, since the note would get filed along with the other documents right away. </p>

<p>I probably should have put that out there in the first comment. Thanks for asking the question to clear that up!</p>

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Now and then, you will hear a student say that high school was more intense, work wise, than college. Those students aren't the norm, but it does happen.

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<p>Those students either went to TJHSST or an elite private school. I haven't met a single alum of a regular public HS here (whose intellect I respect) who didn't absolutely skate through HS. Same goes for alums of most private schools.</p>