<p>I was wondering how the grading scale for APFT worked. Is it as simple as 50-55 pushups is a C, 55-60 is a C+ etc.? I have heard about this type of letter grading at USMA, but then I have read about the 300 point system in the rest of the army. Thanks for the info.</p>
<p>USMA runs on the extended scale, so you can score above a 300. The grade you receive depends on your total score, not individual events. A 300 is an A-, 325 an A, 270 a C (I believe). The 180 point standard in the Army will get you a very poor grade here. To get a 300, if you're in the 17-21 age group, is right around 72 push ups, 76 sit ups, and a 13:00 2 mile. You cannot go over the extended scale in one event if you do not max all the events, ie you cant do 100 pushups and get 125 points (max) in that event, yet run a 14:00 2 mile but have those extra points from push ups be added to your score. You have to hit the maximums in every event in order to get the extended points.</p>
<p>Oh, and the DPE graders are really easy...</p>
<p>Basic research skills are a good thing to have. A quick Google search would have yielded your answer instantly, instead of waiting over 40 minutes for someone else to do the work for you.</p>
<p>yomtraps__
I disagree. Getting answers to questions is exactly part of what this site is all about. Google is nice, but "google" isn't a cadet at West Point. Thanks ScreamingEagle for being available to lend insight.</p>
<p>Yomtvraps,</p>
<p>First off, I have looked for that info on google, and if you can find the exact specifications for the way USMA grades the APFT, I would be glad to see the website. Second off, Shogun could not have said it better when saying that google is not a cadet. I will be starting there this summer and when I have questions that I can not find anywhere else (and like I said, I do understand google has a world of information out there) it is nice to be able to turn to a forum, where people can give advice....because they want to. Lastly, what the hell does it matter to you?</p>
<p>thanks again screamingeagle</p>
<p>i found it on google...look on page 20...too easy</p>
<p>Being able to think look and act like a soldier without supervision is a mark of good training. Being self-sufficient on simple tasks like looking up a regulation on your own is an essential skill for leaders, natural for some, learned for others, never acquired for way too many. This is looking toward the 300m target, but when you need to make an important decision, or simply can't find the answer after your own research, you're going to have your NCOs to help you. Not being able to find an answer on the question you posted here is inefficient (answer in less than 5 minutes vs 40 minutes), and lazy. Some people like to help people out and answer questions, I do, but you're going to run into situations when you're alone, without support, and have to be independent. If you learn to do it on something small, you'll improve and more important issues will be easier for you to handle.</p>
<p>On that note, I'm guessing there's a 99% chance that this post will be taken as some sort of insult... It's not. Whether or not you heed the advice is up to you. Asking a question for clarification after you've researched the topic is fine. Asking a question in the field, training, etc where you don't have a reference or computer is great.</p>
<p>was that comment serious or sacastic "DPE grader's are easy?"</p>
<p>Pretty sure it was sarcastic...</p>
<p>yomtraps,
how 'bout you let him or her wait till the summer and actually start their life with the army before you hold them to said standard today.
Frankly, based on the feedback from my cadet, even as a prior enlisted you (yes, even you) are gonna have your eyes opened wide at Beast.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, few places in the Army have the mindset I described. I certainly can't claim to have come up with the concept either. There is nothing wrong with getting a headstart. I've been through much worse things than "Beast", and it actually looks fun. The academics are another story...</p>
<p>Getting a headstart on things like that, physical fitness etc will lessen the shock of the transistion people will make. Whether you want to do it the easy way (start now) or the hard way is up to the individual.</p>
<p>yomtvraps. don't be so rude.</p>
<p>futbol87, thanks for the link. yomtvraps, thanks for patroling these forums for people who aren't hooah army badasses.</p>
<p>That's not rude so much as direct. If you don't agree with it, drive on. I apologize for not sugarcoating my initial post since it obviously doesn't appeal to some people's sensibilities.</p>
<p>I don't expect high schoolers on an internet forum to be hooah Army badasses, but I do expect you to strive to do your best.</p>
<p>Well, I for one know that I am definetly a hooah Army badass....</p>
<p>"I don't expect high schoolers on an internet forum to be hooah Army badasses, but I do expect you to strive to do your best."</p>
<p>I'm confused. Which of these posters do you think isn't "striving to do their best"---in who's opinion, YOURS?</p>
<p>I'll repeat my earlier mesage:
Asking a question on a forum designed to help get questions answered by others who have experience in the matter is not only acceptable, but it should be encouraged whether said information is easier to glean from some other source (in someone else's opinion).</p>
<p>There is a reason for the saying "no such thing as a dumb question, only dumb answers".</p>
<p>I am sure WP has converted many a hooah army badass into an officer and leader of character.</p>
<p>yo mtv raps. just cuz you are a badass highspeed in real life doesnt mean that carries over to the internet.</p>
<p>you should google the definition of tact</p>
<p>seriously, we need to punish yo mtv raps for his / her obscene comments ofa family website site. where are the mods when you need them.</p>