Grading system at Michigan

<p>How difficult is it to maintain a 4.0 GPA?
I hear about how difficult OChem is and stuff, but is maintaining a 4.0 reasonably feasible or totally impossible?
How do grades work at UMich?
Is it like high school or is there a curve, where so many get As, Bs, and so on?</p>

<p>I am almost 90% sure I will be attending UMich in the fall.</p>

<p>well...i dont know how hard it is to keep a 4.0 but i know the grading works like this:</p>

<p>A+=4.0
A-=3.7
B+=3.4
B=3.0
B-=2.7
C+=2.4
C=2.0
C-=1.7</p>

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<li>is actually x.3, not x.4</li>
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<p>Are the grades in a class curved, so that so many get As, so many Bs, and so many Cs?</p>

<p>Wait... so there's no A's.... only A+'s? What's the grade range for an A+ then?</p>

<p>You aren't even sure if you will be going to school at Michigan, but you are worried about your chances of maintaining a certain GPA and whether grades are curved rather than actually learning, not just from your courses but from your teachers and your peers? Come on!</p>

<p>I'm almost certain (90%)!!</p>

<p>In ochem grades were usually:</p>

<p>80+ A
60+ B
40+ C
20+ D</p>

<p>it's really easy in LS&A or honors but hard in COE or architecture. So far I took 2 classes and am taking 2 classes in LSA this semester, I got an A+ and A last semester without doing much work, while I worked my butt off for Daida's Engin101 and got a B.</p>

<p>orgo's kicking my butt and it's an LSA class... i think upwards of 40 hours of studying and still only a B- on the last test?</p>

<p>i got that scale i posted earlier from the UM website so it has to be right...</p>

<p>This school is HARD. It's not easy at all to maintain a 4.0, unless you do some useless liberal arts major. If you're doing math, physics, economics, engineering or business, forget about getting a 3.7+ unless you're a genius. You might be able to pull of a 3.7+ in one semester, but over the course of 4 years, its going to be very difficult. In my honest opinion, anything above a 3.3 is excellent at this university.</p>

<p>Is it true that it's easier to get a high grade in an honors class?</p>

<p>^ That's what I've heard. I don't trust word of mouth though - people in honors classes are smarter than the general population anyway.</p>

<p>In most cases, you have a better chance of getting a good grade in honors than regular, but you still have to put in a bit of extra work. From what I've seen, it's generally worth it.</p>

<p>What about super honors, as in Math 295? I'm going to the CoE next fall, and I can't decide which sequence I want to take. The other one I was thinking about was Math 156 (Calc II w/ application), because it seems like it might be more beneficial to an engineer, whereas Math 295 seems like it might be more for a person interested in becoming a mathematician.</p>

<p>Most engineers I know take the basic sequence or the applied honors sequence. The basic sequence is actually more applied than applied honors. The theoretical sequence is generally for math majors, but there really is no wrong way to do your math studies.</p>

<p>I'd only do the 295-396 sequence if you really like math, have already finished calc I/II, and are smart enough to pick up calc III/differential equations on your own. Very few engineers take that route (the only one I know who did was double majoring in math and EECS).</p>

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Very few engineers take that route (the only one I know who did was double majoring in math and EECS).

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<p>Not true. There's been plenty. Some of them are even profs in the CoE now.</p>

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The other one I was thinking about was Math 156 (Calc II w/ application), because it seems like it might be more beneficial to an engineer, whereas Math 295 seems like it might be more for a person interested in becoming a mathematician.

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<p>There's no such thing as math beneficial to an engineer. Whatever math you need in engineering, you'll learn in your engineering classes. If you take one single differential equations class, you're all set. You really don't require anything else. You'll also relearn all the diff eq you need during your class.</p>

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What about super honors, as in Math 295?

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<p>If you're interested, try it. If you don't like it in the first couple of weeks, drop and add the other class. I'm an EECS major who took 295 and 296.</p>

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If you're doing math, physics, economics, engineering or business, forget about getting a 3.7+ unless you're a genius. You might be able to pull of a 3.7+ in one semester, but over the course of 4 years, its going to be very difficult.

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<p>It's quite doable. The number of people with a 3.7+ is in the hundreds for each single class, and in total is very large. There's a lot of people at the University, and 20-30% of the people get an A in pretty much every single class, so someone is getting As.</p>