<p>So, the simple fact of the matter is that it will be very hard for me to afford Berkeley. While I will have major assistance through the Regents Scholarship (major pitfall here is Regents lowers financial aid by the amount of outside scholarships received), I still don't think I would be able to attend four years as my relationship with my parents is not great so I cannot expect much support from them. Would it be a good decision to attempt to graduate in two years? Although my ideal education is Haas, I think I would be able to graduate in a short amount of time with an Economics degree. I will be entering with 58.4 AP Credits, 20 Units from the IB diploma, and several from taking Multivariable Calc at a CSU and Art History at a Community College. My R&C Requirement is complete with a 5 in AP Lit and a 6 on HL English. Because I would obviously lack the time to network for a job in a span of two years, I would most likely aim for a commission in the Navy after graduation. Is it worth graduating in two years or should I, taking on loans, attend for a full four years and complete a business degree at Haas instead?</p>
<p>you can definitely graduate in 2 years, esp if you take summer.</p>
<p>say you skip out of all math requirements, english, and take econ 1 in community college then</p>
<ol>
<li>econ 100a, econ 100b, breadth, breadth</li>
<li>econ upper div, breadth, breadth, American history, american institutions
summer stats 21 online
3.econ upper div, econ upper div, econ upper div, breadth
4.econ upper div, econ upper div, econ 141, breadth, breadth</li>
</ol>
<p>that is 18*4 = 76 UCB creadits + 20 IB Diploma + 58 AP is well over the 120</p>
<p>breadths dont have to be 4 unit classes, can be 2 or 3 units. AC course can be a breadth. Econ is a very easy major to do. </p>
<p>On the other hand if you can do all the math 1A, 1B, 53, 54 in CC then stats is also a easy major as it only requires 6 upper div stat courses + 3 cluster upper div courses</p>
<ol>
<li>stat 133, stat 134, breadth, breadth
2.stat 135, breadth, breadth, american history, american institutions</li>
<li>stat 151A, stat 155, cluster UD, breadth</li>
<li>cluster UD, cluster UD, stat 151B, breadth,breadth</li>
</ol>
<p>Could you explain how this Navy commission thing works out?</p>
<p>Also, how much are you paying (how much financial aid do you get per year)?</p>
<p>Assuming Math 1A-1B-53, English R1A-R1B fulfilled and plenty of units, majoring in economics can be done by:</p>
<p>1: Economics 101A, Economics 101B, Statistics 134, Math 54 (declare major)
2: 2 * UD Economics, Statistics 135, breadth
3: Economics 141, UD Economics, 2 * breadth
4: 2 * UD Economics, 2 * breadth</p>
<p>On the other hand, you may want to take one extra semester if you want to take additional math courses (e.g. Math 110 and Math 104) to prepare for graduate school in economics.</p>
<p>Math or statistics should also be doable in four or five semesters from where you start.</p>
<p>So far, my fall schedule is:
Econ 1, AC, 2<em>Breadth, Japanese 100A
My plan for the next three semesters was:
Stats 21, Math 54, Econ 101A, Econ 101B (Declare)
Econ 141, Upper Div Econ</em>2, Breadth
Upper Div Econ*3, Math 104</p>
<p>Overall, I’m fairly sure that I will be able to graduate in two years with Economics. Is it better that I do so over graduating with a degree in Business from Haas? My career/academic goal is in finance/MBA. Because it is unlikely that I would be able to find employment in these areas after graduating in just two years (am I wrong?), I plan on serving in the Navy for four years, then attending grad school. Is it worth the loans to stay at Berkeley for four years? I would be taking about 13K in loans a year subtracted by how much I am able to earn while in school (not expecting much).</p>
<p>If you really want to go into finance, a math degree is probably more appropriate.</p>
<p>Isn’t there a military-sponsored scholarship, the ROTC scholarship, that covers all four years of college in exchange for four years of service right after graduation?</p>
<p>You may want to consider Statistics 134 over 21 if you want to go to graduate school in economics (or MFE). Also make sure that you cover all of the breadths and AC.</p>
<p>Note that your choice need not be between two years (four semesters) and four years (eight semesters). You have the option of doing five, six, or seven semesters.</p>
<p>Yes, look into ROTC scholarships if you want to be a military officer.</p>
<p>The ROTC Scholarship only covers tuition and does not cover living expenses (which in turn lowers the amount I get from Regents…). I am aiming for a commission either through OCS or a direct commission, but if I can land a job in the private sector, then I would probably choose that. I didn’t think that it would be realistic to be able to find employment in anywhere other than military.
I will look into taking Statistics 134 instead of 21, I had not thought of that. I should have all my breadths and AC covered in two years or less, as I am taking the AC and two breadths this semester, and I should have the arts breadth covered by a CC Art History class (or so Assist tells me).</p>
<p>I think you can do it if you follow a mix of the advice above.</p>
<p>I can’t vouch for what your GPA will look like at the end of it all though…</p>
<p>Or you could always go to a community college to save money and then transfer, if you have friends attending I can see no reason why you wouldn’t be able to network for a job any way.</p>
<p>If you are willing to live in the BSC co-ops, that may be a money saving option, since they are a few thousand dollars less expensive per year than the financial aid budget for students living off campus assumes.</p>
<p>If your collection of AP credits includes a 4 or higher score on both micro and macro AP economics tests, then you can skip Economics 1 for the purpose of the economics major. IB economics micro and macro with score of 5 also allows skipping Economics 1.</p>
<p><a href=“http://econ.berkeley.edu/undergrad/prospective/freshmen[/url]”>Freshmen Information | Department of Economics;
<p>Here are course recommendations if you want to go to graduate school in economics:</p>
<p><a href=“http://econ.berkeley.edu/grad/admissions/preparation[/url]”>Preparation | Department of Economics;
<a href=“https://sites.google.com/site/markborgschulte/berkeleyclassesirecommend[/url]”>https://sites.google.com/site/markborgschulte/berkeleyclassesirecommend</a></p>
<p>If you can take on government loans, definitely do so.</p>
<p>I would spend another year or two at a community college taking all the elementary and prerequisite courses to get into Haas then transfer to Berkeley and take all the quality courses so you get the best out of both worlds. </p>
<p>The lower-division class at Berkeley aren’t really different in terms of materials taught compared to other schools or community colleges. In fact, there’s always at least 1~2 classes that you get a professor who doesn’t speak comprehensible English and you are destroyed by the curve when you could’ve easily gotten an A if you’ve taken the same class a community college.</p>
<p>But seriously, being a college student is one of the best times of almost everyone’s life and everyone deserves to enjoy it fully. Take it easy. If you learn well by spending bit more years in college and earn lots of money in return after graduating college, don’t you think it’s well worth it?</p>
<p>Yeah… In most cases too, the teachers at CCCs are completely focused on the lower level undergraduates, no research, classes (like in the case of the Geaduate student researcher)</p>