<p>Olivia -- They just haven't updated their information on boardingschoolreview. According to petersons.com, The acceptance rate for the class entering 2006 was 21%, and the mean SAT of the graduating class was 2000.</p>
<p>Oh, okay, thanks BP. That's helpful. Wait... don't you mean Class of '11?</p>
<p>I hardly think that applicants she decide which schools are "top tier" based on scores. You do not say Harvard is a good school because it has the "highest SAT average in the USA." Many school in the nation are beginning to eliminate the requirement of the SAT. As the trend begins to grow, I believe that boarding schools may do just the same. This is just a prediction...but I want to warn this class of applicants. Focus on showing your character, especially in your interview. Why, Olivia was WL at Choate...but once she started showing them how much she LOVED choate, the were assured that she is PERFECT! It wasn't her 90-something SSAT score that got her in. It was her unique, wonderful personality that we all enjoy so much!</p>
<p>Aw, thanks Carolyn! :) Yeah, that is true... basically, I've heard that once you reach a certain point in your SSAT score, it doesn't matter anymore. So just don't completely bomb it, and you'll be fine!!</p>
<p>I like L'ville a lot, actually - I was thinking of applying there, but I was explaining why many people did not think it was top-tier. But now I guess my information is wrong, so there you go!</p>
<p>I need to study now. ;( See ya!</p>
<p>Olivia -- post #62 -- I think the info on pertersons is around a year old. It's more reliable than boardingschoolreview which has some current info and some vintage 2003 all mixed together.</p>
<p>Ah, I see, ENTERING 2006. I thought you meant class of... I'm like, but that was 2003, so what's the difference? :)</p>
<p>I went to Episcopals school. The student is really very wealthy. The parents visit there. Well dressed. so formal.... It makes me feel we will fit in the school.</p>
<p>Olivia, your numbers are quite wrong regarding Lawrenceville. It's acceptance rate falls roughly in the middle of the AESDCHL group. Last year (for entrance in Fall 2006), Lawrenceville accepted 348 out of 1643 applications, for an acceptance rate of 21%. For comparison, here is info for AESDC, with sources listed below:</p>
<p>Andover: 447 acceptances / 2354 applications = 20.3%
<a href="http://www.andover.edu/about_andover/facts.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.andover.edu/about_andover/facts.htm</a></p>
<p>Deerfield: 359 acceptances / 1752 applications = 20.5%
<a href="http://www.deerfield.edu/admissions/index.cfm?page_ID=262%5B/url%5D">http://www.deerfield.edu/admissions/index.cfm?page_ID=262</a></p>
<p>Exeter: 502 acceptances / 2281 applications = 22%
<a href="http://www.exeter.edu/documents/facts2_2007.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.exeter.edu/documents/facts2_2007.pdf</a></p>
<p>St. Pauls: 1072 applications, 22% acceptance rate *for 07-08
<a href="http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=5673%5B/url%5D">http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=5673</a></p>
<p>Choate: 24.9% acceptance rate
<a href="http://thenews.choate.edu/2006/04/07/News/Class_of_2010_Most_Selecti.php%5B/url%5D">http://thenews.choate.edu/2006/04/07/News/Class_of_2010_Most_Selecti.php</a></p>
<p>I haven't been able to locate admissions statistics for Hotchkiss. If anyone can provide a link to them, I would appreciate it.</p>
<p>In terms of SSAT averages, all of the above schools fall between 80% and 90%. In general, the larger schools have slightly lower SSAT averages/medians than the smaller schools, but the differences are trivial. In terms of ivy league admissions, Lawrenceville once again falls in the middle of the AESDCHL group, with 24.4% of students matriculating to ivy league schools over the past 5 years. That is slightly lower than Deerfield (33%), Andover (29%), and SPS (28.8%) - and slightly higher than Choate (22.5%), Exeter (21.4%), and Hotchkiss (17.5%).</p>
<p>Note: Exeter's Ivy Matric % is for past 3 years, and SPS's is for past 4 years, because that is the only information supplied on the schools' respective websites. Other schools are past 5 years.</p>
<p>The only category in which Lawrenceville trails other top schools in is terms of endowment. Lawrenceville (and Choate), both trail AESDH by a significant margin, however both Lawrenceville and Choate are in the middle of $200+ Million fund raising campaigns, the proceeds of which are not yet factored into the comparison. </p>
<p>If you want to consider Lawrenceville a "second-tier" school, then you're certainly entitled to your own opinion - however, the facts don't support that opinion. The point of this post is not to argue that any of the above schools are stronger than any other. Rather, it is to show that the top schools are more comparable than many posters on this board would lead you to believe. In addition, Groton - which is rarely mentioned on this board - should also be considered comparable to the above schools in every aspect other than size.</p>
<p>Both Groton and Middlesex are right in the middle of this group as well in terms of SAT, Ivy matrics and accept rate. This year accept rate for MX was about 24%, average SAT 2020, ivy matrics about 24% in the last five years. Groton has an SAT ave higher, ivy matrics in the high 20's and an accept rate in the 20's. Maybe you can throw these two schools in the mix. MX has happy students......smile</p>
<p>Prepparent is correct. Groton and Middlesex, which don't associate as much with AESDCHL (mostly because of their smaller sizes), are still top-tier schools. In fact, Groton probably has more "historical prestige" than any other school in the country.</p>
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Well, not really. The reason people think that L'ville isn't first-tier is because its acceptance rate teeters on the higher end (almost low thirties) and because it's SSAT score is significantly lower. In some respects, it's the same. But the others are how people differentiate them. So, no, I wouldn't say it's "top-tier" as people on here define it.
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<p>Well not really. I think others have beat me to the punch in demonstrating how completely wrong that post was. I state again, L-ville is one of the best boarding schools in the country by any reasonable measure.</p>
<p>Bicoastal and prestige... yes, I've seen those facts, and yes, you've seen me say that now I realize that I was wrong.</p>
<p>What about boarding school for a really bright, underachieving student who wants to do a PG year to boost good college chances?? East coast only.</p>
Thank you, its just not about the ssat I got a 78th percentile and got into St.pauls
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