<p>I don’t think SAS is need-blind. It sounds like they usually are, but sometimes have to make some cuts. <a href=“http://www.standrews-de.org/financial-aid/index.aspx”>http://www.standrews-de.org/financial-aid/index.aspx</a></p>
<p>Guys this was from 5 years ago. I wonder where they ended up? We need a “Where are they now?” thread lol</p>
<p>@needtoboard I know… I wish people would say where they end up after Chance Me threads and such. Many of them just disappear…</p>
<p>In this case, they’ve probably graduated already. Wow.</p>
<p>@stargirl3 lets agree to say where we end up haha</p>
<p>I will! Most definitely! And even though “Ask Me” threads are not allowed, I will make one.</p>
<p>haha SAME!!!</p>
<p>I am not so sure there are even a handful of “need-blind” schools anymore; PA comes to mind. A bunch state they will cover all expenses for those admitted with family income under a certain amount ($60-80k), but that’s not the same. Given that so many apply needing aid, and that most schools need at least 45% paying full not to stress the endowment, it’s fair to say that “need-aware” is true for most well-endowed schools. (At some point, on the back-end of the admission process, the FA budget is spent and some applicants who can’t pay full are switched with those who can. Only the AdCom knows this has happened.) St. Andrew recently retreated from “need-blind” language, despite its very high endowment per student. What SAS says that it does do is to meet 100% of the aid needed by accepted candidates, using the formula applied to family income/assets. Some families feel that the formula still expects them to pay more than they can afford.</p>
<p>Groton and SAS both have tremendous resources and “credentials”, though Groton’s a cut above by some metrics, such as endowment. SAS graduates favor the LACs and Groton’s favor the larger universities, though a sizable group at each buck these trends. If one got into both, visiting might highlight the crucial differences that suggest a better fit at the one or the other. The regional feel of New England versus Mid-Atlantic might be palpable to some, and even the approach to religion, though both are Episcopalian.</p>
<p>Thread TLDR, but here are my 3¢.</p>
<p>I noticed that SAS had changed their “need blind” language a little while ago and asked the Admissions Dept. about this change. I really liked the response, which was something to the effect of “it was increasingly obviously to us that it is impossible to be truly need blind…where a person lives, what middle school they attend, what their parents do [all stuff that’s in the app], etc. all inform about the socio-economic status of the applicant”.</p>
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<p>It’s funny that this thread was resurrected…I had never seen it before. But the similarities between the schools (size, enclave-like setting, Episcopalian, etc) were not lost on us during our search for BS with 7D. I remember characterizing SAS as “The Groton of the Mid-Atlantic”.</p>
<p>Also, I do not know where “topschoolanalyst” gets his/her info (some of which has already been pointed out as inaccurate), but I think the statement “The main dorms overlook the sloping front lawn and the lake, providing direct stunning views from many dorm rooms.” is greatly exaggerated. Perhaps from the boys dorms in Founders…</p>
<p>The thing that annoys me with this thread is that many of the “pro-SAS” people say it’s just as good but less famous, and many of the “pro-Groton” people say they’d choose it because it’s more famous.</p>
<p>A) Indeed, the girls dorms at SAS are not situated in Founders, and do not have the same views as many of the boys dorms as described. That’s why the term “many dorms” as opposed to “all dorms”. This situation probably arose when SAS became a co-ed school in 1973, and it was not practical to move the boys out of their existing dorms at Founders. B) Indeed, it looks as though SAS has mildly retreated from the term “needs blind”, although they are certainly still a great distance ahead of almost all of the top 20 on that front… which SAS rightly highlights on the front page of the school’s website. If these are the big “inaccuracies”, I can comfortably live with that. </p>
<p>@topschoolanalyst: Considering that there’s a relatively active thread dedicated to SAS that I don’t think I’ve ever seen you post on, and given the arguably generic content (it’s called Noxontown Pond, btw) of your Feb 9 post above…I wonder just how well you know the school.</p>
<p>LOL! Yes, the lake’s name is ‘Noxontown Pond’, but given its rather large, miles-long size, it can hardly be considered a “pond” in any normal use of that word, hence the more accurate general description of “lake”, which is what it actually is. You say potato, I say patattah. </p>
<p>Yes, but how do you pronounce Mein? :-P</p>