GT vs UM engineering

Colleges and Universities A-Z Georgia Institute of Technology
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<p>Money is not a concern, location is not a concern. I only care about academia, facilities, learning environment, job availability and the "kind of people" who attend these universities for engineering (by kind of people, I mean intelligent, well rounded, competitive etc). I'm looking into Electrical engineering and possibly Mechanical or Aerospace Engineering. Which one of these universities do you think is best suited in these categories.</p>

<p>Right now I'm tending toward UM only because I feel it attracts well rounded people, and has an excellent engineering school as well as business school which offers dual programs. (as a perk I've also heard its gorgeous and offers a real college experience...but I still really care about academia and a future job)</p>

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<p>um…</p>

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<p>Both equally great schools - visit both and see which one you like more <- nuff said.</p>

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<p>GT and UM are both great schools with great programs. Both have top ranked engineering programs (GT is a little higher ranked than UM) and are top ranked public schools (UM is a little higher ranked than GT). Both also have top business schools (Ross at UM ranked #13, CoM at GT is ranked #22). </p>

<p>As far as well rounded, Michigan has many more programs. So if by “well rounded” you mean that you can sit at a table with a philosophy major, musical theatre major, and a biochemistry major, UM is your school.</p>

<p>GT is a much smaller, more focused technical school, so engineering, science, and business are the major degrees. Despite that, Tech still has a music department, marching band, and well known theatre troop all run by engineers (at Michigan, the music majors are in the marching band, the theatre majors are in the theatre troop, etc). So, if by well rounded you mean that you might meet an Aerospace Engineer that acts in the school plays and publishes poetry in the school literary journal, then GT is your place.</p>

<p>As far as class offerings, Michigan obviously has a wider selection, but GT allows students to take classes at Emory (and even provides a bus service) and UGA, allowing for a wide array of class offerings.</p>

<p>As far as location, what defines a “college experience” is up to you. If by college experience you mean 40,000 college students isolated in one place in a town where every single hangout is a “college bar” or “college restaurant”, then Michigan is your place.</p>

<p>If you define a college experience as being in a diverse town, with many people from many schools in a relatively close location to interact, and a large amount of nearby ethnic, social, and arts attractions nearby, then Tech is your place.</p>

<p>So, really, there is no answer. It depends on how you define all of the things you’re seeking.</p>

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<p>G.P.Burdell pretty much answered your question really well. Unfortunately I got deferred from University of Michigan, so I have not visited it yet (my parents will only let me visit colleges that I get accepted to), but I have heard it is a nice campus. The only problem with UM for me is that it is huge. I know GT isn’t a small school by any means, but it’s campus really isn’t that huge and the enrollment isn’t that large for a state school at all. Both are excellent schools though!</p>

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<p>Despite that, Tech still has a music department, marching band, and well known theatre troop all run by engineers (at Michigan, the music majors are in the marching band, the theatre majors are in the theatre troop, etc). </p>

<p>NONSENSE! Most marching band members are not from the music school. It seems that Tech is the one lacking diversity here, since their band is run only by engineers.</p>

<p>“If by college experience you mean 40,000 college students isolated in one place in a town where every single hangout is a “college bar” or “college restaurant”, then Michigan is your place.”</p>

<p>NONSENSE! Ann Arbor is a medium sized city of 115,000 people. The town is very much alive and diverse, culturally and otherwise. It is far from being “isolated” and having every single “hangout” loaded with college students. </p>

<p>If you define your college experience as having to worry about your safety while walking a few blocks off campus, then GT is for you. See, I can stereotype too.</p>

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<p>I would say U of M because they excel at almost everything. If you are sure you want to pursue engineering then GT is a definite option. I know tons of kids going to U of M. I think you would love it there!</p>

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<p>Columbus has almost 2 million people and is a college town. Ann Arbor is absolutely a college town with little escape. More than half of the population of Ann Arbor either attends or works at the college, and most of the rest work in industries to support the school. </p>

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<p>Music is very competitive at Michigan, and the ensembles and music related organizations are run by the music majors.</p>

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<p>I definitely agree with this. If you are not set on engineering, avoid GT and choose a larger state school like Michigan, UIUC, UCLA, etc.</p>

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<p>Check the reports. In 2008, Michigan had 20 cases of aggravated assault on campus. Tech had 3. In the area outside campus within a few miles, Michigan had 75 aggravated assaults. Tech had 4. Michigan: 36 counts of forcible rape. Tech: 1. Really safe campus they’ve got there.</p>

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<p>Just noticed the above comments. If you think that GTech is in a safer area than Ann Arbor, I have a bridge to sell you. </p>

<p>“In the area outside campus within a few miles, Michigan had 75 aggravated assaults. Tech had 4.”</p>

<p>The above comment is so fallacious and ludicrous that I almost didn’t comment on it. Within a few miles of Tech are some of the nastiest areas anyone can imagine. Who do you think you are fooling? For overall safety Ann Arbor>>>>>Atlanta.</p>

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<p>The above poster pulled the Clery Act data for the two schools. So the data isn’t fallacious.</p>

<p><a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clery_Act[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clery_Act&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>rjkofnovi and G.P. are both partly right. Indeed, Tech’s campus is very safe, but I participate in activities maybe half a mile west of Marietta street which is one street over from the campus border and it gets gritty pretty quickly. I have personally never been mugged in over a year and a half of being over there past sundown, but the area doesn’t exactly make me feel safe.</p>

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<p>Indeed, he did pull Clery Act information to get those numbers. You can “perceive” things all you want, but that act produces actual data that is audited by the US Department of Education. The data is collected in a codified manner, so it is appropriate to compere between schools. It would only be a misrepresentation if one school had a substantial amount of unreported crime and the other school did not (since only reported crimes are tracked). That’s pretty unlikely.</p>

<p>GT Data: <a href=“http://www.police.gatech.edu/documents/brochure.pdf[/url]”>http://www.police.gatech.edu/documents/brochure.pdf&lt;/a&gt; (Page 8)
UM Data: [2008</a> Clery Stats](<a href=“http://police.umich.edu/clery_2008.html]2008”>http://police.umich.edu/clery_2008.html)</p>

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<p>“In the area outside campus within a few miles, Michigan had 75 aggravated assaults. Tech had 4”</p>

<p>Within a few miles? yeah sure. in what direction? UP? I don’t care what biased data you are using, you cannot honestly tell me that “within a few miles” in any direction from GT there weren’t more than 4 aggravated assaults. NO WAY, NO HOW!
That even GT would devote such a prominant part of their website to being safe, tells me there is a problem in the general area and certainly within miles.</p>

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<p>That is the data that was reported by Georgia Tech Police to the department of education. If you have evidence otherwise, feel free to report them to the federal government.</p>

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<p>Every police department does that. </p>

<p>Sure there’s crime in midtown Atlanta, it’s just normally not aggravated assault around campus.</p>

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<p>The original comment was about MILES around GT. That was what I was referring too, not on campus.</p>

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<p>I think op cares more about educational outcome than how safe is it outside of my campus. It’s city… more population there are, crimes rate goes up. </p>

<p>Both school are excellent for engineer program and will land you a job after school if you maintain good gpa. I think G P BURDELL pretty much summed up pro/con</p>