Gunman on Yale Campus

<p>Times change. My college roommate was shot and killed one block from Harvard a year after graduation. There was never a lockdown, and they never caught the killer.</p>

<p>The whole militaristic “lockdown” thing is getting out of hand. First off, in the majority of these cases it probably isnt helpful. People would be better off fleeing the area of danger.</p>

<p>Secondly, it being wildly over applied. All of Boston was shutdown for a kid who was passed out in a boat and who would have been discovered except for the lockdown.</p>

<p>Sorry to disillusion all of you- even Central Connecticut State U gets on the news when there is a possible gunman.</p>

<p>[Three</a> in custody after Central Connecticut State University shooter scare | Fox News](<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/04/central-connecticut-state-university-on-lockdown-over-unspecified-emergency/]Three”>Three in custody after Central Connecticut State University shooter scare | Fox News)</p>

<p>This has nothing to do with Yale so all you ivy bashers can calm down. New Haven is a quick drive from the site of a major gun tragedy less than a year ago; feelings are still very raw at the reality that so many young lives were lost so senselessly at an elementary school in Sandy Hook. And two years before that, there was a workplace shooting in Manchester CT where an employee shot his boss and several co-workers when he learned he was being fired.</p>

<p>If the rest of the country is ready to relax, thinking that we’ve solved the gun problem in the US, god bless. Here in the Northeast we are all still traumatized. The fact that Yale does sit inside a city (whether or not any of you consider it major is besides the point- the campus is across the street from the Federal Court House; Yale New Haven hospital is one of the largest employers in the State, and two major interstate highways are a two minute drive from the center of town.) So this could have the makings of a horrific tragedy if it were true, and the media responds accordingly.</p>

<p>do you even think most people outside of New England have ever even heard of it?</p>

<p>Of Yale?
Even in the wilds of Newhalem, Washington, I would wager that 78% of people have heard of Harvard, Yale & Princeton & know that they are located in Boston, New Haven & Princeton, respectively.
But whether we are in sufficiently in awe of them according to some, is something else.
I also wouldn’t bet on naming many other top colleges & where they are located.</p>

<p>How reliable are reports this gunman was seen?</p>

<p>Oh, argbargy, get a grip. The Boston Marathon situation was on a completely different scale. No one likes the people who second-guess the hard-working policemen and other officers who work hard to protect us and put their lives in danger doing so. I’m not saying the Yale lockdown isn’t appropriate - it may very well be the absolutely appropriate response - I’m saying I don’t know why it merits NATIONAL news coverage at this point.</p>

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<p>I meant New Haven by my question.</p>

<p>What I was trying to get at - if there is (heaven forbid) a tragedy on a college campus, it’s equally tragic whether it’s Dartmouth in bucolic rural New Hampshire or Yale in an urban small city or Columbia in an urban major city.</p>

<p>We all know that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are all in Boston, thank you. And that Brown will deliver your package. And that University of Pennsylvania had a big scandal, but the football team keeps on winning. </p>

<p>Cornell is in Iowa.</p>

<p>First graders are now required to know where Mesapotamia is. I hope it stays in the kitchen, where it belongs.</p>

<p>They are now saying it appears to have been a hoax, and have lifted the lockdown of all but the "old” section of campus, where the dorms are apparently located.</p>

<p>And “major” or not, New Haven is a large city, and I’d think most Americans would have heard of it, whether in connection with Yale or otherwise.</p>

<p>P.S. They are also saying that people who believed they saw a gunman may, in fact, simply have seen one of the many armed police officers who responded to the campus after the initial call came in.</p>

<p>Pizza- who is suggesting that this tragedy (which thank god hasn’t happened) would be any more or less tragic than any of the other horrific shootings? Virginia Tech? What exactly is your beef here?</p>

<p>The cops who are now going door to door in the area where the gunman is supposed to be arrived in Sandy Hook as backup less than a year ago. They served as honor guards escorting the coffins of young children to the cemeteries. It is less than 20 miles from Yale to where a mass murder took place; why would you expect local law enforcement to treat this as anything but a potential violent event… and why would you expect the local news media NOT to report on it?</p>

<p>The networks don’t care if it’s Yale or the local Walmart. The story gets covered.</p>

<p>"I wouldn’t call New Haven, CT a “major urban location” </p>

<p>It is the second largest city in CT, after Bridgeport, and part of the megalopolis which runs from DC to Boston. And it is definitely urban. It’s not like there is wide open spaces filled with cornfields between these cities. It is wall to wall people. </p>

<p>And definitely no deer roaming the Green for there to be deer hunters out and about. ;)</p>

<p>I would venture that if something like this happened at UIUC it would make the news, too - and Champaign is smaller than New Haven.</p>

<p>It shows you how inaccurate these early reports are- a witness misidentified a town of 130K as a major urban area.</p>

<p>Argy, </p>

<p>New Haven is a major urban area in CT. Metro areas bleed into one another in that area of the country. It is wall to wall people for hundreds of miles.</p>

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<p>I NEVER said that local law enforcement shouldn’t treat this as anything but a potential violent event – it’s others who have suggested a lockdown is excessive, but not me. And I NEVER said I didn’t expect the local news media not to report on it. Of course they should. It was the comment about the NATIONAL news media that I was commenting on - that a <em>potential</em> incident should rate national news.</p>

<p>New Haven is not a major urban center, people, puh-leeze.</p>

<p>Though I’m glad for all the yalie parents on here, where new haven is certainly an academic center of attention, that their kids are safe and sound.</p>

<p>Happy holidays, folks. Nothing to see here. Move along.</p>

<p>Yet it looks like there is deer hunting 17 minutes away at a state park.</p>

<p>Lets pretend that this wasnt a hoax. Seeing a “bald white guy in a heavy coat with a rifle” the first day of deer season probably means he was heading with some buddies out to hunt. </p>

<p>Meanwhile someone calls from pay phone reporting a roommate and wont give their name? Yeah right. </p>

<p>Not that there was any over reaction…

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<p>[Gunman</a> Sighting Now Likely “Innocent Mistake” | New Haven Independent](<a href=“http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/gunman_report_puts_medical_area_on_alert/id_63267]Gunman”>http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/gunman_report_puts_medical_area_on_alert/id_63267)</p>

<p>Armored vehicles? Riot shields? “hot zones”? </p>

<p>This doesnt strike anyone as ridiculous that have brigades of cops deployed to swam a guy wearing camo and holding a “long baby”?</p>

<p>The Yale emergency site still is declaring an lockdown on the old campus. Guess they dont want to give up their fun playing soldier and running their “lockdown plan”.
[Yale</a> University | Emergency Management at Yale](<a href=“http://emergency.yale.edu/]Yale”>http://emergency.yale.edu/)</p>

<p>“Yet it looks like there is deer hunting 17 minutes away at a state park.”</p>

<p>Which is about 20 miles from downtown New Haven by car. No one is walking around in downtown New Haven (where Yale is) with a deer rifle. No one.</p>

<p>New Haven county has 800K+ people living there, and it’s not sprawling. It is urban and the 3rd largest county in CT.</p>

<p>How do they get their hunting rifle from their house to the state park? USPS?</p>

<p>Funny comment at the New Haven Independent :“I had to laugh at the report of a gunman in New Haven. I mean, come on, I would have to shelter in place permanently living in New Haven.”</p>

<p>“I mean, come on, I would have to shelter in place permanently living in New Haven.” </p>

<p>Yes, because it is urban and very poor. Not much different than living in parts of Chicago. </p>

<p>"How do they get their hunting rifle from their house to the state park? USPS?:</p>

<p>I doubt many of the urban poor who live in the projects of downtown New Haven go deer hunting.</p>

<p>Update message to the Yale Community, November 25- 4:40 p.m.
The Shelter-in-place/lock-down has been lifted.</p>

<p>From Yale’s emergency website.</p>

<p>When I was googling this incident, I saw this, posted just yesterday: A University of New Haven student was ACTUALLY stabbed in the dorm. I wonder why this didn’t rate mention on CC?</p>

<p>[University</a> of New Haven student stabbed in dorm - Connecticut Post](<a href=“http://www.ctpost.com/news/crime/article/University-of-New-Haven-student-stabbed-in-dorm-5007780.php]University”>http://www.ctpost.com/news/crime/article/University-of-New-Haven-student-stabbed-in-dorm-5007780.php)</p>

<p>Emilybee - no one is doubting that New Haven is an urban area. It’s just not a major urban area. Providence, RI is urban. it’s not a major urban area. Rockford, IL is urban. It’s not a major urban area.</p>