<p>Really, if you guys just read past the first page, you’ll see that no one is arguing that it’s wrong to hold the door open for someone. Even the OP admitted that her first post was exaggerated. So the last couple comments don’t mean anything.</p>
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<p>You should get a life. :)</p>
<p>I really don’t care for what you have to say.</p>
<p>yeah reading is for chumps i agree</p>
<p>I read a bunch of Dbag’s posts(lol) and nearly raged. Hard.</p>
<p>Your beliefs help contribute to our society living in the past. As another poster said, this is 2009 and we ought to show that society’s old traditions aren’t necessarily in the best interest of all the people. Should guys be expected by society to be the sole earner and open every single door for their woman while paying for every meal they eat together? Definitely not. If I were a woman, I’d sure as hell get tired of not being able to open a door every once in a while. I would think that women are more than perfectly capable of opening their own doors. However, I feel it is nice to open a door for elderly peoples as respect for them considering some already have problems walking, etc etc. Women don’t melt if they touch door handles, at least I hope not. Paying for the first date seems perfectly acceptable, but it would probably be logical for the person asking for the date to do the paying out of convenience for the other person, male or female. Assume they are on a tight budget and can’t cough up that money.</p>
<p>Until we put aside the differences between males and females, besides the fact that women take too long to get ready and men feel the need to live up to stereotypes from the stone age, we’ll never be trully equal. I think that would be a good starting point for relationships. Do men REALLY want to be hounded for not opening a stupid door? Do women want to feel inferior because they aren’t expected to open their own door?</p>
<p>All humans have hands and they have arms. Let’s use them to open doors, male or female. Come on, it won’t hurt you. Just think of how fat America is anyways, we must keep our females skinny so don’t let them save calories by standing back waiting on you to open the door to that Outback’s or wherever else you go to scarf down overpriced food.</p>
<p>My 98 cents.</p>
<p>As for my two cents, I think that you should always have enough money to cover yourself at dinner. If the other person wants to treat you (first date, special occasion, dinner after they’ve won the lottery), then you should either a) accept without protesting or b) protest but then accept (my preferred). </p>
<p>Also, if your SO pays because it’s your birthday or their commission check came in, then you should also pay when it’s their birthday or you get paid. Fair’s fair.</p>
<p>…but then, I’m gay, so. (:</p>
<p>It seems everybody agrees now :)</p>
<p>I feel like everyone agreed in the first place. The first few pages were people saying that the OP was taking those gestures too seriously, the middle pages are just us yelling at Dbate, and these last few have been people not caring to read past the OP. :]</p>
<p>You left out my ■■■■■■■■ within the first two pages :(</p>
<p>i don’t mind guys opening doors for me and i don’t mind holding the door for guys… and girls. and babies.</p>
<p>and the elderly
and the middle aged
and dogs
and cats
BUT NOT SQUIRRELS.</p>
<p>everyone should open the door for everyone else. Its just classy. As far as paying, if you want to bang the chick then pay. If your with her already or you dont want to bang her then split it. This aint the 50’s anymore. Girls have money too you know.</p>
<p>^ and that is EXACTLY the attitude the OP has an issue with. </p>
<p>It’s just nice to pay the bill if you ask him/her out. Your goal shouldn’t be to get into bed with her, if it is then why bother with dinner? Just go buy a prostitute.</p>
<p>Y’all obviously haven’t met any southern gentleman like myself.</p>
<p>I’ll open a door for any gender person, I’m not trying to have sex with the day laborer walking into QuikTrip.
$$$: If it’s a date, pay. If not, split the bill.</p>
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<p>O_O</p>
<p>We have some real winners on this forum.</p>
<p>this is that point where feminism just starts getting ridiculous. Guys like doing this kind of stuff because that is how things are between man and woman it is proper manners for a man to take care of his woman even if she can open the door herself, gimme a break.</p>
<p>I hate people that are such strict feminists like the OP that they get insulted if a man buys them dinner or if they open the door for them…youre not gonna get any male dates acting like that lol</p>
<p>^^^ hey my hypothesis on the bottom of page 9 was right after all . . .</p>
<p>"Y’all obviously haven’t met any southern gentleman like myself.</p>
<p>I’ll open a door for any gender person, I’m not trying to have sex with the day laborer walking into QuikTrip.
$$$: If it’s a date, pay. If not, split the bill."</p>
<p>agreed it not like I am trying to hit on every person that I hold the door open for. I have hold the door open for cute girls and I have done for bums its just common courtesy</p>
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<p>really, my experience has shown otherwise.</p>
<p>People hold open the door because it’s respectful to the other person, it’s kind to let someone in before you, regardless of gender. </p>
<p>If they do it for a girl, it’s not because they’re a chauvinistic pig (the ones that are most likely won’t open the door), rather because they’re either doing what’s expected of them or because they’re genuinely kind. </p>
<p>I do it for my girlfriend because of my upbringing and because I find it a kind thing to do, and I am just as likely to do it for her as I am a random guy/girl behind her. Not to mention it’s just one more way to be cute with her, because even though the gesture is antiquated, she and most rational people still appreciate it.</p>
<p>Just curious about the door thing, would you be a offended if a girl you held the door open but didn’t see it and she opens her own door? It’s happened to me a few times where I arrive at the door a split second after a guy does and he opens the door for me but I didn’t see it coming and I open my own door. Typically, he shoots me (what I typically assume to be) a confused look, and I feel embarrassed and mumble an apology. The most awkward time was when I reached the door a split second later than two other guys, and they both tried to hold the door open for me but I opened my own door.</p>
<p>^it’s almost 3 am, but i don’t understand your first sentence. no offense, but sorry, what?</p>