Guys...WTH?

<p>This thread is a counterpoint to the previous thread about girls. </p>

<p>GRRRRRR </p>

<p>I'm starting a list </p>

<p>1.) They only care about sex</p>

<p>2.) They despise career women</p>

<p>They are only afraid of us because we can have babies!</p>

<p>also, because everyone knows a womens brain is 20% smaller than a mans</p>

<p>3.) They don't listen well enough.</p>

<p>huh? what'd you say?</p>

<p>Im a guy. I relate to #1 and #2.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>4.) They have extremely short attention spans</p>

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<li>Women have extremely short tempers</li>
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<p>I totally disagree with 1, 2, 3, and 4. Totally.</p>

<p>maybe you ladies have been fishing at the shallow end of the pond?</p>

<p>What are you guys, twelve years old?</p>

<p>more probably like a cesspit</p>

<p>I friggin' hate babies. Does that mean I'm supposed to be afraid of women in general, or only women over the age of 35?</p>

<p>I would go with immaturity though. I've been waiting for guys to grow up for about 10 years or so now...I think I'll give it another 5 before I give up.</p>

<p>so assuming you're 17-18 now, it means that you were into boys when you were 7 years old? dangg i thought girls had cooties until i was like 11</p>

<p>i STILL think girls have cooties...</p>

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<li>They are unpredictable and liars</li>
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<p>Hi: I'm weighing in as a guy, as there were women, or at least there was one women, on the contrary thread.</p>

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1.) They only care about sex</p>

<pre><code> 2.) They despise career women

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<p>If you think or know that guys only care about sex, then you have in your hands incredible power. You know what motivates them. Use that knowledge well for your purposes, whether that be avoiding them or attracting what you consider to be the right one.</p>

<p>About career woman. The statistics increasingly show that educated men want to marry partners whom they consider their equals. There have been stories about this recently in the press. If I had more time, I'd google some of them for citation. </p>

<p>I think American women have an incredible burden; one one level, they are supposed to maintain sexiness as well as be strong and consummately professional (which implies a kind of sexlessness often). I can tell you I have dated some very powerful and interesting women, some of whom were on the top echelons of success. But American guys have some similar countervailing burdens. </p>

<p>For women, as well as for American guys, I recommend the following: when you aren't at work, don't be your work. Develop other lives. And don't base all your views of the world on the workplace. It's hard to explain without going into detail, but the most powerful people can make themselves so dull if they lose their ability to have balance and know that life is more than about what happened at work today. The problem is so many women, and men, have to work so hard. It's tough.</p>

<p>One story I heard from a friend who was there: A rare female partner in a very well respected I-bank was in a limo in Paris. And she was going on and on about the company and her deals, and a French female counterpart, apparently tired of the arrogance she thought she was hearing said, "Yeah, but don't you just want a man?"</p>

<p>The point is not that women should define their value by their relationships. The point is life is not just about work and your power. I am not intimidated by a powerful women; I just don't like a woman that has sacrificed all style and grace to her work, or who never bothered to develop that style and grace in the first place.</p>

<p>7) they are subject to lame, incredulous, assumptions from females like urself.</p>

<p>8) They are hypocrites because they make vast generalization about females in their own thread but then "Totally disagree" and are offended when woman do the same thing.</p>

<p>BAM</p>

<p>I thought maybe we could agree that women are people and men are people and we should just treat eachother like that, but we might be passed such a simple agreement...</p>

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1.) They only care about sex

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<p>You know, I might have agreed with you not too long ago, but the more I think about it, I think that men care about sex only slightly more than women do. One of the reasons the disparity seems so much larger is because social norms permit - indeed, encourage - men to publicly display this part of themselves.</p>

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2.) They despise career women

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<p>Untrue. The research shows that while this may have been the case as late as two decades ago or so, nowadays intelligent men have a strong preference for intelligent career women.</p>

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3.) They don't listen well enough.

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<p>Some do, some don't. Keep in mind that there do exist differences in the way sexes communicate, but this doesn't mean that one sex cares more about other human beings than does the other.</p>

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4.) They have extremely short attention spans

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<p>Again, if differences do exist in this area, I'd attribute this more to differences in communication style than anything else.</p>

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6. They are unpredictable and liars

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<p>Ouch. But this is a criticism that men have leveled against the fairer sex as well, so I'd venture to guess that this is individual-specific rather than gender-specific.</p>

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7) they are subject to lame, incredulous, assumptions from females like urself.

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<p>While I think that many of the threads against women havev been silly, if this thread shows anything, it's that this can go both ways.</p>

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8) They are hypocrites because they make vast generalization about females in their own thread but then "Totally disagree" and are offended when woman do the same thing.

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<p>I agree there's some degree of hypocrisy in this. But the cries of outrage stem from the same place in men as did the cries of outrage from women when the "anti-female" threads were created. People - regardless of gender - don't like it when negative generalizations are made about some group to which they belong.</p>

<p>Moral of the story? Chances are that both sexes are just as "good" or "bad" as each other.</p>