<p>HAAS:
Pro: big reputation worldwide because it's berkeley
700 enrollment, smaller than ross's 1000+
2 year program
good location
2nd ranking recruiter survey rank from bizweek
good mba feeder ranking</p>
<p>Con: bad teaching quality (?)
bad faculty student ratio
half of the students are asian</p>
<p>ROSS:
Pro: better teaching quality
better ranking than haas on either usnews or bizweek
more diverse student body (true?)
better faculty student ratio</p>
<p>Con: cold. snow.
location is not as good as the bay area (true?)
1 year longer than haas (or it could be a pro?)
less prestigious
less well-known worldwidely when compared to BERKELEY...(true?)
easier to get in than haas (true? at least i feel it's almost impossible to get into haas as a transfer. ... ross seems to be easier? right?)</p>
<p>who's already in ross or haas or knows something about either of them throw me some ideas on the two options????
It's kinda urgent cuz the reply date is coming coming coming.........
I have already decided on haas until i got the acceptance for ross just now.
i feel it's a pity if i dont go to BERKELEY (wow, such a big name in my country. i'm an international student).
however although less well-known in my country, ross @ michigan seems to be of better quality here in US???
But HAAS does have a really low acceptance rate....
please help me.
any comment is welcome.
Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>I say it depends on a couple factors you didn’t mention.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Where do you want to work in the future? Haas will be more strongly recruited in the west. Likewise Ross in the midwest and east (or heading back to home country?)</p></li>
<li><p>Is one option significantly cheaper for you?</p></li>
</ol>
<p>Out of curiosity, what makes you think Haas has bad teaching quality?</p>
<p>Congrats, only a select few actually get into Haas (6% according to the Berkeley transfer 2009 Brochure). You should take the offer with Berkeley.</p>
<p>Stick with Berkeley man, it is a tough program to get into and will look good on any resume. I’d also like to add, understand that business school won’t teach you anything about REAL business. Use it as an opportunity to build crucial relationships with other peers and alumni. The degree will do nothing for you but look nice if you don’t know how to correctly use it. Just helpful advice :]</p>
<p>Ross is definitely not less prestigious than HAAS. If you didn’t know UM has I’m sure the largest number of alumni and the school is known worldwide. There is a reason why so many people go to UM from international country, its because UM is known so well internationally and Ross is no exception. Ross is placed as one of the best business schools and I’m sure that UM is known internationally better than Berkley’s HAAS
Its contradicting how you said Ross is ranked among the best of the best Business schools and then you said its less prestigious, I highly doubt that and I would say that a Ross student has a better chance than beating at Harvard student at getting a job when compared to a HAAS student and a Harvard student. I mean think about it, HAAS is only two years long, I don’t really think people are going to see that better than a three year program, you get way more experience in three years than two which means better prestige and better experience forjobs.</p>
<p>^ for jobs, and I would also like to add that Ross is not even close to a bay area, it is a good 30-45 minutes away driving on a highway.
And the only reason that HAAS has a lower acceptance rating is because University of California’s population (all of the campuses, UCLA, UCSD, Berekley) and there are many west coast people so that results in a larger amount of people applying, Michigan’s population is smaller by a lot and east coast usually have people apply to Ivies (and especially Warton).</p>
<p>Thanks so much all you guys for your detailed and helpful info!!!</p>
<p>Now, if I wanna work in the US, which school seems to have a better reputation? I’m now living in CA. But if i wanna, say, work in NY in the future, which of the two would give me a better chance? Also, which school is better in terms of recuiting students?</p>
<p>There’s no concern for money at this point. So please be free do give more advice.</p>
<p>I’ve been to neither of the schools. For me, Berkeley is a school whose class size is always really big and it’s hard to approach to the professors. Maybe for Haas it’s better?
For Umich, I don’t know…Well, I don’t really know about Berkeley either…</p>
<p>I agree that the diploma you get from a biz school values more than what u really learn there. That being said, which of the schools has a better alumni connetion? </p>
<p>And the career services. For public schools, do they have that much support as private schools? How is either ross or haas doing on that?</p>
<p>So, cdz512, sorry but I don’t really get it. DO u mean ross has a better location than haas or worse? The bay area is quite good right?</p>
<p>Thanks again all of you!!!
I look forward to hearing more!!!
:)</p>
<p>UC-Berkeley and Michigan both have HUGE class sizes and as a result of the size of both schools, both have very good alumni connections. Also, if you work in NY a UC-Berkeley degree will be the same as a Michigan degree so it doesn’t matter. </p>
<p>I mean if location of school is a factor of your decision, I would like to invite you to the UM campus as it is a pretty nice place to go to. Oh not to mention you have the Great Lakes that you can spend the summer at (did I mention the water is FRESHWATER not SALT WATER aka when you go into the waves, you won’t accidentally gulp down salt water (although fresh or salt water doesn’t really matter). Michigan has nice summers (I mean they are not as hot as CA) also Michigan winter might be cold but it is fun to play in the snow. UM often has snowball fights (yes even in college you have snowball fights). UM allows you to go camping in the upper peninsula, climb the sleeping bear sand dunes (near the tip of the lower peninsula) and go kayaking in various rivers. Beaches there isn’t many by campus but there is so many activities near Ann Arbor it is so wonderful and the campus is diverse. If you think Berkeley HAAS has too many Asians, well UM doesn’t.</p>
<p>But if you want to stay in the US go to Ross. Going back to the Alumni thingy. Since Michigan has such a large Alumni population, it means that many companies know the reputation of Michigan and thus knows about the great education of UM. Ross is so well known in the US. I mean Ross has sometimes produced students with such intelligence and such “strength” that they simply just defeat Yale Business, Harvard Business at job finding. Berekley has yet to catch up (in my opinion). UM Ross is seen as extremely comparable to schools like Wharton and Harvard in Business and a UM graduate is in now way really seen as inferior to them (not just by rating but also the great business graduates they produced). Also UM has companies that recruit on campus and Ross students can easily get internship.</p>
<p>Regarding class sizes, lower division prerequisite courses are large lectures at both Berkeley and Michigan.</p>
<p>However, the OP is a transfer student, and will likely have completed prerequisites.<br>
Haas courses are pretty small. They are probably the most cared for undergrads on the Berkeley campus…heck, they even provide business cards.</p>
<p>Haas is only a two year program. Did someone mention Ross is three years? Why take 3 years when you can get to the same destination by going to Haas in two and avoid a year’s tuition?</p>
<p>Regarding location, I’m sure Ann Arbor is an awesome college town. But, so is Berkeley. Bay Area weather is very mild year round. San Francisco is accessible via a 20 minute BART ride. Skiing in Tahoe is a 3 hour drive.</p>
<p>Haas is a smaller, more intimate business school than Ross. The Haas career center services are phenomenal and separate from the full Berkeley campus career center.</p>
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