<p>Well, it has been 2011 over here for the last 8 hours and 55 minutes. I got to tell you guys, 2011 looks like a good year so far. Now if our football team could only start us off by winning!</p>
<p>Go blue!</p>
<p>MSU: be prepared to be DENARDED!</p>
<p>Hopefully I’m not wrong hah. Go Blue!</p>
<p>Ugh…I supported Rich Rod up until now. The defense is just too embarrassing, you gotta let him go.</p>
<p>Well… I look like an idiot 2 posts above.</p>
<p>This game was the most embarrassing ever. Most of the people I watched it with quit watching in the 3rd quarter and we spent our time watching Sparty get pummeled to make ourselves feel better. I used to be on the fence about RRod, but this is just it. He’s gone. Even his most ardent supporters have realized this now.</p>
<p>We’ve had worse losses…</p>
<p>please don’t fire Rich Rod…</p>
<p>MLDWoody, are you a Spartan or a Buckeye?! ;)</p>
<p>Seriously, I don’t see how Rich Rod can stay. Good coaches have the program back on the national championship trail on their third season. 7-6 with a miracle win over Illinois and humiliating losses such as yesterday on his third season tells me that Rich is not in his element in the Big 10.</p>
<p>We have not had worse losses, this is the worst. How could anyone possibly think RR is a better option than just about anyone out there? Jim Harbough and Les Miles are both way better options than this guy. Everything points to him leaving.</p>
<p>I argue App State was worse, how soon we forget.</p>
<p>You bring in Harbaugh and its another 2+ years of moving spread guys out and his guys in. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see him do it. It’s just not gonna be a magic fix. And who exactly crowned him as the best thing out there? Sure he went to Michigan and has had success at Stanford but there are a lot of other talented coaches out there.</p>
<p>RRod has been plagued his whole Michigan career by **** that would break down any coach. All the people in West Virginia getting on him about leaving and that whole court case. Coming in with virtually no offensive talent (for a Michigan team). Having a bunch of butt hurt players that were too slow to play in the spread call the team out to the NCAA over a rule that every program breaks. And what was wrong with us? We stretched too long.</p>
<p>And this year. You think he wanted to play 6 true freshman in the secondary? Or was it because of injuries to his top guys and the top recruit being detered because of academic standards.</p>
<p>He has had three years of games, yeah, but closer to two of recruiting. Kinda hard to pick up guys when you take over the job in January and then completely change the staff and coaching scheme.</p>
<p>RRod deserves another year. What he has done with that young offense is too impressive to give up on it now. If anything, fire Greg Robinson. I know people angainst RRod will go on and on about the D being his responsibility too and you right. But if we can bring in a new D coordinator and improve it why not? We have some impressive D recruits coming in this year and a top HB. We’ll start losing some of them if RRod is gone (more O guys than D).</p>
<p>Regardless, with a young team I’d expect everything to improve next season unless one thing happens. And that is bringing in a new coach, a new staff, and a new scheme.</p>
<p>The moron screwed up on 2 DC hires, there’s no evidence that he could get the third one right. It is the responsibility of the head coach to hire the right coordinators. That itself is RR’s own wrongdoing.</p>
<p>I am just curious if your so called impressive offense is the one that puts up many points on doormats and get shut down against anyone with a pulse until the game is out of reach? How well did out amazing offense do with a whole month to gameplan? Please save your “but but but we had many yards” crap…</p>
<p>Also, we do not have “impressive D recruits” coming in this year by Michigan’s standard.</p>
<p>“top recruit being detered because of academic standards.”
“The top recruit being detered”, you mean demar dorsey, you mean the same one who ended up commited to Louisville and failed to qualify and meet minimum NCAA standard? That’s an educated risk RR chose to take and got bit in the ass</p>
<p>"All the people in West Virginia getting on him about leaving and that whole court case. "
You mean the case that RR had to settle and cost Michigan 2.5million in doing so because he had no case with the way he left WV?</p>
<p>"Coming in with virtually no offensive talent "
You mean the offense with Mallett (a future first round pick), Boren (First team all big ten), Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington (which both would have returned if Mallett stayed by their own account), Alex Mitchell (who was an OL starter with eligibility left), Steven Schilling (returning starter), Greg Mathews, Junior Hemingway? </p>
<p>What makes you think that Harbaugh would “move the spread guys out”? Harbaugh ran the spread at USD and has used both the pro and spread formation at stanford. He caters his offense to his talents, unlike the unadaptable and stubborn RR.</p>
<p>I’d take the season with one app state loss that ended 9-4, with a new year bowl day win against the defending champion and heisman winner over the combination of 3-9, 5-7, 6-18 B10 record, 3 straight losses to Moo U since the 60s, 3 straight BLOWOUTS by ohio state etc</p>
<p>“Having a bunch of butt hurt players that were too slow to play in the spread call the team out to the NCAA over a rule that every program breaks”
hey, Auburn pays Cam Newton, OSU pays Pryor, should we start paying denard too? Just because “every program breaks the rule” doesnt mean it is ok for the leaders and best to do so.</p>
<p>“He has had three years of games, yeah, but closer to two of recruiting. Kinda hard to pick up guys when you take over the job in January and then completely change the staff and coaching scheme.”</p>
<p>So which year of recruiting doesnt count? The year that contains LC holdovers like Mike Martin (our best DL by far), Kevin Koger(our best TE), Darryl Stonum (our best outside receiver), Kenny Demens (our best MLB), JB Fitzgerald (semi-starting SLB) or the one that contains his recruits like Martavious Odoms, Roy Roundtree (our 2 best slots), Michael Shaw (our best RB when healthy), JT Floyd (our best DB outside of Troy Woolfolk), Patrick Omameh(our starting OL)? Looks like a pretty good recruiting class to me in terms of contribution to the team</p>
<p>Well, first of all I was just stating the worse loss, App State. That had nothing to do with the rest of that season let alone our bowl game.</p>
<p>RRod didn’t have Boren, Mallet, Manningham, and Arrington. If you honestly think RRod looked the #2 QB recruit in the nation in the eye and said “You can’t run, so you should just leave” that’s BS. Mallet left because he didn’t want to be a part of what he thought he would be a part of. I wouldn’t expect RRod to come in there and completely change his proven scheme to a pro one just to make Mallet happy. I’m sure there would have been some give and take and it would have been a passing spread scheme. But no, Mallet said F that. So what was he left with? Two O lineman? wow.</p>
<p>Harbaugh isn’t going to come in here and work magic in a year. He is going to have to try and get his own guys in eventually. My point is it makes more sense to give RRod another year instead of bailing on him now.</p>
<p>I didn’t mention anything about paying players. Its a rule that every program tries to get around and deals with. And Carr probably had to deal with it too. It wasn’t something that just appeared when RRod showed up.</p>
<p>And you may not wanna hear the “we get a lot of yards” thing but it has merit. If r offense (Denard) wasn’t under the pressure of knowing you don’t have a FG kicker and knowing your D won’t stop anything he may have made less mistakes. But that’s just the thing, it’s not a complete lack of ability. It’s mistakes caused by inexperience, and I am pretty sure you can’t coach experience.</p>
<p>MLDWoody, you know I got your back…but not in this case. I cannot see how RR has been anything but a disaster or how he can turn things around. I was happy when he was hired, but he is all wrong for this job. He is a good coach, but not for Michigan. Like I said, look at what Brian Kelly did at Notre Dame. His first season, with less talent than RR had in 2008 and he managed to go 8-5 with a convincing win over Miami. A good coach who respects and understands Michigan will NEVER have a losing season. 6-6 perhaps, but 3-9 or 5-7 are unheard of. Michigan has had down years and coach chances over the last 40 years, but never has it endured 9 or 7 loss seasons in that period.</p>
<p>I would be amazed if a coach came in with the talent RRod had and the changes he made and didn’t have a losing season that first year.</p>
<p>MLDWoody, the closet is not empty. I agree that a first year coach will struggle, but I think 7-5 is very possible with a coach suited for the Big 10.</p>
<p>Hopefully the new coach (honestly… its not going to be RRod…) can adapt some of these spread offense guys into a manageable offense until he can get the players he wants.</p>
<p>In the next 4 years i hope Michigan can go back to its former stature in CFB… I just got accepted and it would be great to see some domination in my years there :)</p>
<p>Multiple sources have Harbaugh to Michigan as a done deal. I bet RRod has know it’s over for a month. When asked what case he would make to DB to keep his job he said “none”.</p>
<p>eziamm, RR would have probably kept his job had Michigan looked alive and beaten Mississippi State.</p>
<p>if he gets fired now all this wait has been so we could save a buck… which is lame</p>
<p>No, it’s smart. Now we can afford Harbaugh. I think after the 30 point OSU loss it was all over.</p>
<p>A buck? $1.5 million is pretty hefty. But I also think that giving RR a chance to complete his season was the right thing to so. A win would have save his job. An 8 win season would have been good enough, but a 6 loss season is unacceptable. </p>
<p>At any rate, mst good coaches cannot commit to leaving their programs until after the bowl season, so Michigan was not going to do anything until now. It is a matter of days before RR is fired.</p>
<p>actually, it’s the smartest way to approach it if you were to make a change. It’s called strategy. You are not going to get Harbaugh to skip his BCS game, so there’s no disadvantage to string RR along at all, while upside includes</p>
<p>1) 1.5 million
2) gives you an absolute worst case contingency plan if you strike out on your 1st, 2nd, 3rd choices etc
3) hold the recruiting class together as best as possible (it’s better to have a fake head coach than no coach at all)
4) give RR less time to land a good gig and pry our recruiting class and our current players</p>
<p>The only real loser with this long wait is really RR but who cares about him…</p>