Hardest and easiest Engineering majors.

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Mr. Payne,</p>

<p>Why don't you consider IE as Engineering?</p>

<p>and if it isn't then why is it considered Engineering ?

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I personally don't feel process engineering is real engineering. This is a personal opinion and nothing more. I'm basically saying that many jobs which engineers get after school shouldn't be considered engineering jobs and don't neccessarily require someone with a specific skillset such as ME, EE, etc. They just need someone who is smart and has broad based technical knowledge with some problem solving skills. I believe that Engineering is primarily a Design, Build, & Test occupation. This is something that IMEs don't do on a daily basis. That is not a bad thing, I just don't believe it's engineering.</p>

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Mr Payne: here it is again, where I go to school BME is considered a far more difficult major than MechE.</p>

<p>Any BME program that has more than a couple of bio classes (as in from the bio department) as part of its curriculum is a bio program not a bme program.

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Well, our program doesn't look to have hardly any bio classes.</p>

<p>BME:
<a href="http://www.calpoly.edu/%7Eacadprog/2005depts/cengr/gene_prog/bmed.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.calpoly.edu/~acadprog/2005depts/cengr/gene_prog/bmed.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.calpoly.edu/%7Eacadprog/2005depts/cengr/gene_prog/bmedcrs2005.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.calpoly.edu/~acadprog/2005depts/cengr/gene_prog/bmedcrs2005.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>ME:
<a href="http://www.calpoly.edu/%7Eacadprog/2005depts/cengr/me_dept/me.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.calpoly.edu/~acadprog/2005depts/cengr/me_dept/me.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.calpoly.edu/%7Eacadprog/2005depts/cengr/me_dept/mecrs2005.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.calpoly.edu/~acadprog/2005depts/cengr/me_dept/mecrs2005.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I just don't see it.</p>

<p>''Process engineering is often a synonym for chemical engineering and focuses on the design, operation and maintenance of chemical and material manufacturing processes. Process engineering and process engineers are found in a vast range of industries, such as the petrochemical, mineral processing, material, food and pharmaceutical and biotechnological industries. Process engineering also involves developing new processes, project engineering and troubleshooting.''</p>

<p>is process engineering also a sub-field in IE?</p>

<p>and what do you mean by IME?</p>

<p>Allow me to point out that there are different points of view on systems engineering (and it's cousin, operations research).</p>

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Allow me to point out that there are different points of view on systems engineering (and it's cousin, operations research).

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Pretty much sums it up.</p>

<p>hey, whats the better minor for Industrial Engineering?</p>

<p>Business or Information Systems?</p>

<p>I'd think that the most difficult engineering disciplpine would vary from school to school. </p>

<p>While I'd suspect that chemical engineering is probably more difficult in general (the fact that I hate chemistry with a passion may be influencing this opinion, though), my school's most difficult undergraduate engineering disciplines are biomedical and nanosystems engineering.</p>

<p>"I'd think that the most difficult engineering disciplpine would vary from school to school. "</p>

<p>Yup. And at my school, the hardest engineering discipline is General Engineering...because that is all that is offered... and 40% of the school is in it.</p>

<p>Talking about the hardest and easiest engineering major, how about their job prospects?</p>

<p>Would the hardest engineering major (Exp. ChemE or EE) get better oppotunities in finding a job compare to the easiest engineering major (exp. IE)??</p>

<p>well, i do happen to think the prospects for chemE and EE are a lot better than IE</p>

<p>Id like to point out that Aerospace is almost the same topic as mechanical so they really cant be ranked differently.</p>

<p>My List, Hardest first</p>

<p>Nuclear/radioactivity/plasma
Petrol
EE/Comp
Chemical
Aero/Mech
bio
Geotech
Civil
Industrial/sytms</p>

<p>''well, i do happen to think the prospects for chemE and EE are a lot better than IE''</p>

<p>It seems IE doesn't have much respect among eng. students.
Its percieved as a ''stupid'' or ''pointless'' major.</p>

<p>As a HS student should i really reconsider my plan about majoring in IE? [in PSU]</p>

<p>No not at all, I really respect IEOR. Honostly, many people from the IEOR department here at berkeley end up getting jobs that pay higher than other engineering because they are prime candidates for management consulting and finance. Just because its not as hard as other engineering majors, doesnt mean it should be thought of as a pointless major. It just depends on what your career goals are. If you want to work strictly on the technical side, such as designing circuits, IEOR may not be right. However if you are interested in more of the bussiness/management side of engineering, IEOR will probably put you in a better position than most other engineerings.</p>

<p>yes, I am more interested in the business management side, but i like the technical side as well.</p>

<p>I see..so IE grads have more chance in business/management.
I also heard about that from some friends.</p>

<p>Hmm..I am also interested in business,but I already took some Chemical Engineering courses...I guess I will just continue to get my BS in ChemE and later I will go to a top business school to get my MBA.</p>

<p>I am interested in science and technology stuff, but I am starting to like business stuff. I like doing business like on e-bay, Amazon etc.. </p>

<p>Ps: Right now my friends and I are waiting on the line to buy PS3 in San Francisco. Just so u know even though it cost $600, but u can sell it easily for $1500-$2500 on ebay. Some ppl willing to pay up to $6000!!! Good Business :p</p>

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Id like to point out that Aerospace is almost the same topic as mechanical so they really cant be ranked differently.

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<p>Not really.</p>

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Not really.

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I agree to an extent. It's mainly more specialized fluids, thermo, controls, and design. ME is more generalized, which I think makes it a bit easier. The same core is there though.</p>

<p>Its The Same Topic, Almost Every school Has A dual Degree With Aero And Mech And To Get It Its Only 3 More Classes From A Mech Degree To A Aero Degree.</p>

<p>tHOSE 3 CLASSES HAPPEN TO BE AERO CLASSES.</p>

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Its The Same Topic, Almost Every school Has A dual Degree With Aero And Mech And To Get It Its Only 3 More Classes From A Mech Degree To A Aero Degree.</p>

<p>tHOSE 3 CLASSES HAPPEN TO BE AERO CLASSES.

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Not at my school. Virtually the entire 3rd & 4th years are different. Aero Thermo, Aero Fluids, Aero Controls, Aero Design, etc. At my school the Aero guys have worse professors and the curve is pretty brutal.</p>

<p>Lol cmon guys give Industrial engineering a chance. Heck, Janitors call themselves "Janitorial engineers"</p>