<p>$45K…is that above the poverty line?</p>
<p>Doesn’t matter. I’ll be happy.</p>
<p>I think 45k is a pretty average starting salary. Good on you for being a music teacher.</p>
<p>Honestly folks, why is this being argued about? Yes, being an engineer is a great profession, and I find the work my friends who are engineering majors interesting. However, we can’t all be engineers, otherwise there would be no jobs for people such as Vanagandr who want to become one. Everyone is good at something; it takes all kinds of people to fill the world.</p>
<p>I want to become a wildlife biologist, and I know quite well that there is not a lot of money in starting positions in this field. However, I love wildlife, and have no interest in engineering. I personally would make a terrible engineer, due to my hatred of high level calculus. I instead would rather just work my way up the ladder doing a job I enjoy, in a field I am passionate about. So why should I, or anyone who wants to major in something they love, be criticized because we won’t get rich doing it? There are lots of jobs that need to be done and research that needs to be completed, yet if everyone turned away due to lack of a high starting salary, none of it would ever even be undertaken.</p>
<p>Props to you, Vanagandr, for valuing your financial future and career. And props to you Classicskid and riku92mr for choosing to follow your dreams. There’s no point in arguing about it, or telling others how to live their lives. At least we’re making ourselves happy, which is what counts in the long run, despite these disagreements.</p>
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<p>Who said these arguments aren’t making people happy, too? If you like to argue nonsensically, then this thread is bliss.</p>
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<p>Ignorance is bliss.</p>
<p>So for those who are just joining us and don’t wish to read through the first 8 pages of worthless pointless garbage…here’s a summary.</p>
<p>The hardest major is engineering no doubt no doubt. Engineering is for the elite of the elite and a certain made-up % of people can’t handle engineering if their lives depend on it. Everyone that aren’t an engineering major, you are NOTHING and you are just wasting your money by majoring in something impractical and just stupid. If you are an engineering major, you can make all the money in the world and cars like Mercedes SL65 will be like pocket change to you.</p>
<p>The easiest majors are the majors that aren’t engineering or a hard science such as classics, economics, underwater basketweaving, history, and other joke majors. Yes, these are the group of people that will never succeed in real life and will not make any real money. It doesn’t matter if you know someone with a PhD in one of these joke majors…you still are not going to make money. $45,000 a year??? Please, that’s way below poverty line. You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking about thinking about how that’s a good entry level salary. Honestly, people in these majors, go major in something real like engineering that will make you richer than Bill Gates. Remember…a college degree is your ticket to make a ridiculous amount of money. Bill Gates doesn’t even have a degree so he’s already losing to you. By being an engineering major, you will be happy forever. You CANNOT argue with that. Do not even begin to even try to argue with that…you will just look like a HUGE IDIOT! JUST DON’T!</p>
<p>My logic is like the bible…infallible!</p>
<p>^ lol</p>
<p>But I would say that engineering is the hardest in terms of workload, while mathematics and physics, and sometimes computer science and chemistry, are more difficult conceptually.</p>
<p>Hmm, then what field of engineering is the hardest of all? Do you call ‘General Studies’ the easiest major of all, too?</p>
<p>Don’t get why some people are saying chemistry is so hard. Chemistry is the easiest subject I’ve ever taken next to history. It’s straightforward concepts, you don’t need stochastic calculus or something to understand it, the math barely goes beyond adding and subtracting except for physical chemistry and electives like transport phenomenon, spectroscopy or materials. Now physics, math and aerospace engineering, those are HARD.</p>
<p>The hardest classes for me were 1.) biology and 2.) economics. biology was horrendous torture for 3 years when I was trying to finish a bio degree. So much memorization. I switched out of the “softer” bio program to the “hard” chem program because i couldn’t stand sitting down and memorizing for 5 hours. Unlike some people who have to spend hours on physics or chemistry, i usually finish the week’s homework in half an hour. what’s hard is whatever you think is hard. i know too many premeds who can’t think critically and only know how to memorize, and they think ochem is horrible torture (i viewed it as an easy GPA booster). Economics too was horrendous torture, as they used so much math but in the end don’t ask you to calculate much, and i couldn’t understand any of the concepts given.</p>
<p>I have utmost respect for every major except psychology, biology, English, education, music and philosophy. History/sociology majors can get pretty quantitative and many history majors take alot of stats and programming. Biology etc on the other hand are purely qualitative = worthless.</p>
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<p>What kind of economics courses did you take? And philosophy shouldn’t be on the “unrespected” list, it’s by far the most quantitative out of all the humanities, and the higher you go the more logic you encounter. It sounds as if you may have been exposed to upper level econ but barely intro level phil, actually.</p>
<p>i took introduction to econometrics. admittedly i didn’t go far beyond entry level philosophy. both felt like chewing glass compared to the easiness of chemistry.</p>
<p>I’ll pay someone here 20 bucks an hour to be my chemistry tutor next year.</p>
<p>I’m a math and physics major. Anything I’ve taken outside of those two have been ridiculously easy and a joke, such as microbiology and English.</p>
<p>Why do we equate “difficulty” with value?</p>
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<p>Probably because the easier something is, the more people will be able to do it, and the less valuable that makes it.</p>
<p>It’s a little bit like the law of diminishing returns.</p>
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<p>That’s not true. The easiest majors at my school are not the most popular.</p>
<p>I think it depends on the person, I know a lot of people who think economics is extremely hard, but I think it’s a breeze. (And I’m praying it gets harder because I’m bored with it right now.)</p>
<p>hardest - life science, english
easiest - art philosophy & literature</p>
<p>hardest - life science, english
easiest - art philosophy & literature</p>