Hardinger 14c Material

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<p>Hello everyone. For 14c, besides the thinkbook, did any of you find it necessary or useful to buy any of the other material such as the textbook, lecture supplement, or any of the other optional things? I heard that the textbook wasn't particularly useful unless you wanted extra problems to do, and that using the older book was fine too, and that he gave practice problems from both the new and the old book. Any insight would help. Thanks!</p>

<p>Note: I already have the model kit from 14a.</p>

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<p>I personally used the book for extra studying but i heard of others that did not</p>

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<p>i bought them but i never opened them. I used the textbook like twice...thinkbook ftw</p>

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<p>Ha - I saw this thread title and thought it was about cross stitch but that you could not spell (14 count hardanger is a type of cross stitch material). OK I will go away now.</p>

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<p>Actually, it's organic chemistry and a professor's name. :)</p>

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<p>I kind of guessed I was misinterpreting the title. :D</p>

<p>Kind of a funny coincidence though. Or maybe it is just late and I need sleep.</p>

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<p>I miss having enough free time to knit and crochet T^T</p>

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<p>if anyone wants the 14c materials, email me. I am finishing 14d right now.</p>

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<p>I might take you up on that alexinorbit. Are the materials the same?</p>

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<p>yes, i have both the chem 14d materials and the chem 14c materials. When are you taking the classes? I know for sure that they are the same for the spring quarter. I took both classes this year.</p>

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<p>I am going to take 14c this spring, planning on taking bl next fall then cl winter, then finally d in the spring. What is the condition of your 14c thinkbook and lecture supplements?</p>

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<p>Y'know, Hardinger has all of his Thinkbook and Lecture Supplements in PDF form on his website. </p>

<p>I love it. (i have a tablet PC), but you can also print them out for free at LS, the secret Mac lab in Franz, Alumni Center, from your workplace, etc.</p>

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<p>Wait, you can print anything for free at those places? Wait ***, why am I buying it if I can just print it out!?!?!</p>

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<p>it is up to you...but my material is in pretty good condition....your choice...plus...i just want to get rid of it so it won't be too expensive....</p>

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<p>Well, LS gives you 300 pages, Psych potentially unlimited if you know the system (otherwise it's 100), Alumni is unlimited if you got the Alumni Scholarship.</p>

<p>If you're gonna buy anything used, I would just get the Thinkbook. Lecture Supplements are gonna be all written on. Vollhardt textbook didn't get much, if any, use from me. It's much more useful to go to Hardinger's office hours (he's actually a nice guy, to 14D students anyways). Get the optional OChem As a Second Language book, as it's a really helpful resource that clears up a lot of 14C concepts. Pushing Electrons isn't needed; it helps a bit, but the concepts aren't hard to understand at all (you can just read it at Powell if needed).</p>

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<p>hey jinobi what's the system?
i'm IN the psych lab at the moment with 15 pages left for the quarter, trying to print out 2 sets of SPSS data. i don't wanna run out and teh LS labs don't have SPSS so i can only print here... you remember that annoyingness.</p>

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<p>There's a Mac lab on A-level, and somehow my friend was able to log in and print all he wanted. Lemme ask again to see how he did it. </p>

<p>Haha, my TA gave out free copies of SPSS on his website. Good times.</p>

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<p>LS and Psych gives these #'s to everyone? Office hours? I heard that he was not a nice person. LOL. How many pages are the thinkbook/lec supplement though? I would just print it if it was like a few 100 pages each. It would come out cheaper than buying it. And don't give me anything about reselling it, I am not concerned with that.</p>

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<p>Check it out yourself: Dr</a>. Hardinger's Organic Chemistry Page - UCLA </p>

<p>Otherwise, it is actually better to just buy it, depending on how many free pages you can get. </p>

<p>And nah, don't believe the rumors. He's a nice guy, very patient even if it takes you a couple of times to draw a correct SN2 mechanism (like I did once. Twas pretty embarrasing). Heck, he can even have some good conversations with you if the time allows. </p>

<p>I've also heard that he gets mean to people who ask basic questions; I think I've asked my share of basic questions, but he has always been a good source of info. Best guy to go to if you need clarification on course concepts (or your TA, if ya have a good one and don't wanna aim for a LOR from Hardinger).</p>

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<p>Well, I am actually willing to print it on my own printer. I'm all laser so it isn't actually that bad price wise--I HATE bubblejets/inkjets. They are totally not cost efficient, the quality is mediocre for their price, relative to lasers, and they are MUCH MORE prone to crapping out due to things like the print head clogging and what not. Although HPs replace the print heads with each ink cart, you're paying significantly more. OKay enough about my rant on printers.</p>

<p>It seems that all of hardingers lecture supplements have been replaced by powerpoint slides, unless that is what the lecture supplements originally were, just printed out versions of the slides. I don't actually see the thinkbook on the page but I see them mention it in the slides. HMMM</p>