Where did you get that 1716 number?
Yeah your math is off. It’s not 1653 plus 63. That 1653 figure already includes the 63
I disagree that the Admission Office was not expecting this likely yield rate. I think Harvard was in fact expecting this type of yield and proved that by admitting even fewer students this year than even last year which was fewer than the previous year… They admitted 1962 for the class of 2022 with an 82% yield. They admitted 1950 this year expecting a similar if not better yield. One can say many things about Harvard but one can not say that they are not prepared nor deliberate about their admission cycles.
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No I think they knew it’d be higher, but not near 83. I think they were thinking it’d be like 72
@thebly Wait, are you sure that includes the 63? I just checked the yield rate (which usually excludes the waitlist, right), and it comes out to 1653.
Yeah I think so, cause there they say they accepted 2024, but here before the WL they say they only accepted 1962 https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/3/29/harvard-regular-admissions-2022/
72%? I don’t see how that could possibly be the admission office’s mindset. If they admit only 1950 applicants thinking they’d get 72% yield that would only be around 1400 students accepting. Harvard’s first year class is approx 1660-1670 students. Where would they get the other 200 plus students to fill the class? Z-list and waitlist? Why would they think that somehow the yield was 82% last year but only 72% this year? The speculation obviously doesn’t matter at this point. There are now facts. Fact #1 they admitted fewer students than last year at 1950 and they have announced the yield rate of those 1950 to be 83%.
I mistyped. I meant 82%. of course I didn’t mean 72
“No I think they knew it’d be higher, but not near 83. I think they were thinking it’d be like 72”
Got it. A mis-type. But even still last year the yield was basically 82 and they adjusted the raw number accepted this year. So whether the yield remained 82 or moved up a bit to 83 my point is they were anticipating this type of yield. This was not a miscalculation on their part. At all. Earlier in the thread you said that you believed the yield would be less than last year’s 82% and you believed that Harvard didn’t expect this yield number. Obviously the admission office did expect this type of number. What any of this means for the waitlist will still have to play out. But the university is doing tremendous outreach to secure the “yes” option of those they offered admission. I wish everyone, and I mean everyone luck in securing a spot. Having said that Harvard is not the only quality school out there and if folks were waitlisted there that means they are terrific students likely with great options.
Alright there is absolutely no point in arguing semantics. At the end of the day I, and probably everyone else will be rejected, and that’s really all that matters.
It’s 1653 including those taken off the waitlist. The target class size is on average 1660.It was a little under last year because the yield was so high the previous year. Since almost all undergraduates live on-campus, they could not physically handle 1716.
maybe calls will start going out tomorrow
historically, calls come out this weekend. @dreamthief001 what makes you think itll come on a friday?
.83 x 1950 = 1619
1653 - 1619 = 34
Still a few spots left! Wishing the best for you all.
^^^ IMHO, a small number is LESS than 34: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/05/83-percent-of-those-admitted-to-harvard-will-attend/
Eh in the grand scheme of things, 34 is pretty small. I’m sure including z list kids it’ll end up being like 55
^^ Harvard has never publicly stated whether they include LAST YEAR’S Z-listed students in THIS YEAR’S accepted student numbers. For example, I don’t hink the 1950 accepted students listed in post #115 includes Z-listed students from last year who have already accepted offers of admission prior to offers going out for this years class.
So, IMHO, the actual number of students taken from the waitlist this year will probably be in the range of 5 to 15 – which is small for Harvard. That’s not including students who will be Z-listed this year. FWIW: In years past, (2008-2016) 34 students taken from the waitlist was about the norm.
But then if that’s the case then with this years z list included it should be around 34 right?