<p>Look how everything evolved! :)</p>
<p>Unlike my jokes, this thread was intelligently designed.</p>
<p>I GOT AN INTERVIEW!!!!! The email said the guy had been trying to be in contact with someone in Burlington to interview me for a while and had been unsucsessful to this point but wanted to talk to me on the phone for a while tomorrow. I AM SO PUMPEDDD!!!!!!</p>
<p>and Howard Dean, as in Dr. Dean, just introduced me to a woman running for state senate and told her he wanted me to be her campaign manager! and I am now! so i have something to talk about tomorrow!! wahhoooo!!!</p>
<p>congrats, for shaganov!</p>
<p>I got a call today from Harvard.
Sadly, it was just cause they made a mistake about my address.
I cannot express the range of emotions that ran through me as I was taking that call hehe.</p>
<p>You didn't get an interview, y17k?</p>
<p>i havent gotten an interview yet...should i be worried? i would imagine that those who dont get one are auto-admits or auto-rejects, and, well, i know im not an auto-admit...</p>
<p>I am so beyond nervous right now. I feel like all I'm going to be able to get out are sophmoric stutterings about how John Withrop is one of my original political heroes and his statue sits in Annenberg watching over students as they eat....
Trying to talk about how early New England history is one of my passions and Harvard is so immersed in that, but I just feel like it will come out so, so wrong/trival.</p>
<p>Uh, For Shag...ever taken a course on New England history? You're from St. Louis, so I know the rest of the country has this buttered up image of New England history. But in reality, it isn't any prettier than the rest of the country's. </p>
<p>Winthrop was a Native American killing, entreprenuerial bigot like the rest of the settlers. When I lived in the Winthrop house over the summer, I remember one of the students there telling me that most were ashamed to have their building named after this guy. (All respect to the building itself, it's the most wonderful dorm/place to study on earth). </p>
<p>Word of advice. You might want to go easy on the idealistic exhaltation of political figures for the interview. ;)</p>
<p>that's a huge part of who i am, it's what i wrote my essay on. i don't idealize winthrop, kennedy, webster, kerry, etc, but in spite of their faults, what they said they stood for and what they at times did stand for inspired me and mattered to me.<br>
And ever taken a history course on the rest of the country's history? It's uglier, to me at least. I've taken A LOT of US History courses.... </p>
<p>Winthrop, whatever his faults may be, said from his city of Boston that America should lead by example, and that's a value, and it's one of mine.</p>
<p>I agree with you, the rest of the nation's history is probably more "ugly." As a history buff/minor, I know this myself. However, it would be foolhardy to see a certain region through a glossy lens by virtue of its relative admirability alone. Even New England isn't perfect.</p>
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<p>Hmm. Well, there is an implicit assertion in such a statement that America must always assume the role of leading. As a propenent for globalization, I would like to see the United States take less of an offensive role in global affairs and stop trying to lead the world, depriving it of its opportunity in the meantime.</p>
<p>Also, if you like the idea, state that you like the idea -- not the person. For Winthrop was not the only person in the history of this country to express such a sentiment. What hinders the political scene today is this inextricable tie between the image of the politician and an ideal. It's just my belief that if we could concentrate on the idea, we would not see many of the problems that we do today. (aka, Bush getting re-elected by virtue of his personal charm and appeal).</p>
<p>Are these alumni interviews in your area or do they require you to fly to Cambridge?
Byul, if these are alumni interviews are located in your area, perhaps they dont have any local harvard alumni.</p>
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Hmm. Well, there is an implicit assertion in such a statement that America must always assume the role of leading. As a propenent for globalization, I would like to see the United States take less of an offensive role in global affairs and stop trying to lead the world, depriving it of its opportunity in the meantime.
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<p>In fairness, I don't think that analysis is applicable to leading by example. Leading by example could mean cutting CO2 emissions and hoping others follow. In fact, leading by example isn't offensive at all, it's just setting an example.</p>
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<p>Setting an example is virtually the same as leading in example. They both imply that one entity is acting as that which sets the precedent, and therefore has influence upon all else. </p>
<p>If this is used for a good cause, great. But even so, we must be wary of possibly stifling the sovereignty of other nations in "setting this example." The US has a long, bloody history of "setting the example" as it sees fit.</p>
<p>i live in the San Francisco Bay Area -- there are definitely harvard alums around...at least two of my graudate student instructors every term are from Harvard...</p>
<p>Exactly, Usually, that's what Winthrop was saying (not with carbon emissions, obviously). He was the original AMERICAN advocate of a realist foreign policy. John Qunicy Adams, another Bostonian, echoed his ideas later with that famous "America goes not abraod in search of monsters to destory..." speech.</p>
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I GOT AN INTERVIEW!!!!! The email said the guy had been trying to be in contact with someone in Burlington to interview me for a while and had been unsucsessful to this point but wanted to talk to me on the phone for a while tomorrow. I AM SO PUMPEDDD!!!!!!</p>
<p>and Howard Dean, as in Dr. Dean, just introduced me to a woman running for state senate and told her he wanted me to be her campaign manager! and I am now! so i have something to talk about tomorrow!! wahhoooo!!!
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<p>How do you know Howard Dean?</p>
<p>he was at a panel i was invited to tonight and after dinner i just introduced myself to him, we talked for about ten minutes about why i wanted to be a campaign manager and then he introduced me to this woman. he's awsome in person. very down to earth, as i'm sure everyone would expect.</p>
<p>Byul, ur from San Francisco? I went Archbishop Riordan High.</p>
<p>hey guys,</p>
<p>so far a few of you have suggested bringing a resume... but what if the interviewer already has a copy of your application? would it be prudent?
it seems like a minor detail... im probably only curious about this because its 3 am and i am so sleep-deprived. :)</p>