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<p>what would be better for engineering
harvard or mit</p>

<p>UNDERGRADUATE UNDERGRADUATE UNDERGRADUATE</p>

<p>if i emphasized enough</p>

<p>i've heard that ppl can take classes at mit for engineering but i heard the harvard degree is pretty :( for graduate</p>

<p>ENGINEERING SCIENCES BS/BA... this would imply (general/survey engineering even if a track was chosen)
as opposed to a strong</p>

<p>ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING BS.. for example at mit...</p>

<p>any comments
does ENGINEERING SCIENCES really look worse say if you're going into electrical engineering in the future?</p>

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<p>At Harvard you get the engineering sciences degree with a specialization. My student handbook specifically mentions the following specializations:</p>

<p>AB: biomedical sciences, decision & control, electrical engineering & computer science, engineering physics, environmental sciences & engineering, mechanical & materials science & engineering
SB: biomedical sciences & engineering, electrical engineering & computer science, environmental sciences & engineering, mechanical & materials science & engineering</p>

<p>You can also take computer science as its own concentration (AB).</p>

<p>I'm going to do electrical engineering and computer science at Harvard, maybe for an SB.</p>

<p>MIT will give you a better engineering-specific education, pretty much no matter what engineering field you go into. There are some fields of engineering (including computer science and electrical engineering, which are apparently your field of choice) in which Harvard's undergraduate program is very comparable to MIT's, but if you're interested purely in engineering academics, MIT is definitely the place to go - they are THE top notch science/engineering school in the world, 'nuff said.</p>

<p>Why did I choose Harvard over MIT, then? I'm actually not the typical engineering student; I want to be able to take a lot of meaningful liberal arts courses, especially psychology, but MIT liberal arts courses are basically a big joke according to the MIT students I talked to. Harvard also gave me a great financial aid package. I had a few other reasons for choosing Harvard, but they probably aren't applicable to you.</p>

<p>In general, I would recommend MIT to prospective engineering students, but I felt there was more available for me at Harvard. Sound good?</p>

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<p>Consider Cornell if you want the best engineering in Ivies, and "meaningful liberal arts courses" Obviously, Harvard and MIT great choices as well.</p>

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<p>Yep, Cornell's another good one for engineers who are also interested in liberal arts, if you also got into there.</p>

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<p>MIT's the best for engineering</p>

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<p>hmm but no chem eng at harvard
which is also a popular choice</p>

<p>i wonder why that would be</p>

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<p>adding on...</p>

<p>would taking classes at mit CHANGE the NAME of the degree</p>

<p>maybe perhaps instead of electrical sciences and engineering</p>

<p>it can just be electrical engineering?</p>

<p>or else.. what's the point of taking classes at mit besides the enjoyment of learning of course..</p>

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<p>MIT engineering is very good at teaching " laboratory engineering skills ". However, MIT engineering alumnus have not been doing well business world.</p>

<p>For example, even though MIT electrical engineering and computer science department if biggest department at MIT, it is very difficult to find software companies ( especially internet related) founded by MIT alumnus.
and most firms founded by MIT alumus are limited to small to midium sized companies.. NO MIT alumnus founded a company as successful as Microsoft which was founded by a person form Harvard Division of Engieering and Applied Sciences, even though about 1000 people are graduating from MIT engineering school whereas only about 60 people are graduating from Harvard DEAS..</p>

<p>MIT alumus usually end up working for Harvard or Princeton graduates..</p>

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<p>^
Already been responded to. Wrong info/stuff not taken into account. Ex. Gates was not a DEAS student, but an econ student.</p>

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Already been responded to. Wrong info/stuff not taken into account. Ex. Gates was not a DEAS student, but an econ student.

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<p>This is wrong information. Bill Gates was Applied Mathematics student at Harvard Division of Engineering and Applied Sciences. Steven Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, graduated with Applied Mathematics degree from Harvard Division of Engineering and Applied Sciences</p>

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<p>MIT most definitely.</p>

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<p>mdx49, not everyone wants to start a company.</p>

<p>At the technology firm I work at, almost everyone born post-1975 went to MIT at some point, either from college or grad school. Dead serious, those coming out of different colleges are in the minority. And trust me, they've all gotta be pretty happy with their pay checks.</p>

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hmm but no chem eng at harvard
which is also a popular choice</p>

<p>i wonder why that would be

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<p>I don't know the difference between chemistry and chemical engineering. Harvard apparently only has a chemistry degree. I'd send an email to a DEAS person about that.</p>

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adding on...</p>

<p>would taking classes at mit CHANGE the NAME of the degree</p>

<p>maybe perhaps instead of electrical sciences and engineering</p>

<p>it can just be electrical engineering?</p>

<p>or else.. what's the point of taking classes at mit besides the enjoyment of learning of course..

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<p>You mean instead of electrical engineering and computer science, only specialize in electrical engineering? Maybe you can, but that's not listed. The way I see it, comp sci and electrical engineering are similar anyway, might as well learn both in college.</p>

<p>Don't worry about what the degree is called - the important thing is that your employers know that you are capable of a job involving electrical engineering, which you will be if you choose to specialize in that field.</p>

<p>As for why you'd take a course at MIT, that's easy - MIT offers courses that Harvard doesn't offer, and vice versa. Some MIT students take courses at Harvard for the same reason. Wellesley students can also take courses at Harvard and MIT, I believe.</p>

<p>Your classes are actually there for learning, not necessarily just getting the degree, so it's important to choose courses that actually fit the technical knowledge you want to have before leaving college.</p>

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<p>
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This is wrong information. Bill Gates was Applied Mathematics student at Harvard Division of Engineering and Applied Sciences.

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<p>No, THIS is wrong information. We will never know what he would have majored in, because he never graduated. It is possible that he might have majored in Applied Math if he had stayed , but we'll never know. The point is, you cannot say with absolute certainty that he would have been 'belonged' to Applied Math. </p>

<p>Besides, I also don't know why you keep mentioning Ballmer, who is a DEAS grad. Ballmer is not a founder of Microsoft. None of the founders of Microsoft are Harvard graduates, and are certainly not DEAS graduates. Like I said, Microsoft was founded by Bill Gates (who dropped out of Harvard), and Paul Allen (who dropped out of Washington State). So does that mean that Washington State is a great school and everybody should go there? Paul Allen is richer than Steve Ballmer and was actually a founder of Microsoft. So does that mean that it is better to drop out of Washington State than to graduate from Harvard?</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen#Early_years%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen#Early_years&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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For example, even though MIT electrical engineering and computer science department if biggest department at MIT, it is very difficult to find software companies ( especially internet related) founded by MIT alumnus.

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<p>I don't know why you are even bringing up the Internet. It seems to me that Harvard alums haven't exactly been founding lots of Internet companies either. This is mostly a Stanford thing. </p>

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most firms founded by MIT alumus are limited to small to midium sized companies..

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<p>Most firms anywhere are small to medium companies. Most firms founded by Harvard grads are small to medium companies too. </p>

<p>Furthermore, what do you want to say about Robert Noyce and Intel? Last time I checked, Intel was a pretty big company.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Noyce%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Noyce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Or how about William Hewlett of HP? </p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hewlett%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hewlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Or how about Cecil Green of Texas Instruments? TI is by far the largest mobile phone chip producer in the world.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_H._Green%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_H._Green&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Would you also consider Qualcomm to be a small company? Qualcomm is the inventor of CDMA, which is now the dominant cellphone technology used in the US. </p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_M._Jacobs%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_M._Jacobs&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Viterbi%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Viterbi&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>MIT was completely dominant in computer hardware. Almost all of the minicomputer makers such as DEC, Prime, Apollo, Computervision, were founded by a coterie of MIT grads. These companies eventually became part of other companies. For example, DEC and Apollo are now part of HP. Prime and Computervision are part of Parametric Technology. </p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Equipment_Corporation%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Equipment_Corporation&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computervision%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computervision&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Computer%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Computer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Furthermore, much of MIT's historical strength has been in the defense industry. A great bulk of the major defense contractors were founded by MIT grads. They may not be 'famous' to common people, but they are certainly huge. </p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URS_Corporation%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URS_Corporation&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_International%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_International&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And then there are huge conglomerates that make a wide variety of industrial parts. Again, not 'famous' to common people, but certainly huge companies by any measure, employing thousands of people.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenneco%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenneco&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyco_International%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyco_International&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Semiconductor_Manufacturing_Company%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Semiconductor_Manufacturing_Company&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teradyne%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teradyne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The point is, it seems to me that MIT grads do very well for themselves in business.</p>

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<p>dude.</p>

<p>mit for engineering man...</p>

<p>i thought that'd be obvious</p>

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<p>u.s. news undergraduate engineering rankings:</p>

<ol>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>harvard</li>
</ol>

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<p>MIT engineering</p>