Harvard-Princeton-Yale-Stanford-MIT 2013 cross admits

bjomountsi09 · May 1, 2009, 4:41pm

Wow, this list is probably hated by 99.99% of all high school seniors haha. Congratulations guys!

Love, Cornell 2013 (we’re all Ivy in the end!)

harvardfan · May 1, 2009, 4:58pm

I hope that I am right this time.

Updated Cross-Admit Yield

H: 11/22

Y: 13/27

P: 11/27

S: 4/15

M: 7/17

Head to Head

P-H: 3-2. (In head-head matchups, Princeton wins 3-2.)
P-S: 5-2

H-Y: 6-6
H-M: 3-2
H-S: 3-0

Y-M: 1-1
Y-S: 3-2
Y-P: 7-5

S-M: 1-0

M-P: 5:5

From this, we can total the margins of victory across all opponents:

H: +3
Y: +3
P: +2
M: -2
S: -6

harvardfan · May 1, 2009, 4:59pm

Sorry: H:+3

datalook · May 1, 2009, 6:36pm

If you guys know some statistics, you will find the difference of the cross-admit rates between any 2 of these 5 schools is not statistically significant. I think you can not validly claim Harvard has a higher cross admit rate than Stanford based on the data we have. The sample size is too small

datalook · May 1, 2009, 6:56pm

I don’t think Stanford tries to avoid competing with MIT. Vice versa, you can say MIT tries to avoid competing with Stanford. I think it just happened that students going to engineering rarely posted on this thread. It might be interesting if we can find what fields these cross-admits are going to study.

In terms of engineering, Stanford knows how to pick the best students. Just look at the students Stanford picked in the past: the yahoo guys, the google guys, the inventor of microprocessors, the designer of internet protocol, … The list goes on and on.

ewho · May 1, 2009, 7:03pm

That is how people abused statistics. I am more concerned about data biased towards the ‘rich’ all-rounded, rather than the ones who need finaid.

faraday · May 1, 2009, 7:18pm

1) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
2) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
3) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
4) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
5) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
6) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
7) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, MIT
8) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: HYSM
9) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
10) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
11) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO:Harvard,Princeton
12) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
13) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
14) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
15) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
16) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
17) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
18) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Princeton
19) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard, Princeton
20) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Princeton, Stanford
21) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
22) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
23) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
24) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT, Stanford
25) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton,Stanford, MIT
26) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
27) Harvard-ALSO ADMITTED TO : MIT
28) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, MIT
29) Princeton-ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
30) Harvard–ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
31) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Stanford, MIT
32) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
33) MIT – ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
34) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
35) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
36) Yale- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
37) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
38) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
39) MIT- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
40) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
41) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard, Stanford
42) MIT-ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
43) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
44) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
45) Harvard- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
46) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
47)MIT- also admitted to Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Princeton.
Beavers all the way!

DunninLA · May 1, 2009, 7:24pm

including master faraday’s post:

Head to Head

P-H: 3-2. (In head-head matchups, Princeton wins 3-2.)
P-S: 5-2

H-Y: 6-6
H-M: 3-3
H-S: 3-0

Y-M: 1-2
Y-S: 3-2
Y-P: 7-5

S-M: 1-1

M-P: 6:5

From this, we can total the margins of victory across all opponents:

H: +2
M: +2
Y: +1
P: +1
S: -7

I cleary went to a loser school… :)

Professor101 · May 1, 2009, 7:32pm

Quote from Harvardfan,

I agree with the statement about Stanford’s yield, but the fact that Stanford has fewer number of cross-admits is not surprising if you look at the these numbers:

Princeton:
SAT Critical Reading: 690 - 790 98%
SAT Math: 700 - 790 98%
SAT Writing: 690 - 780 98%

Yale:
SAT Critical Reading: 700 - 800 92%
SAT Math: 700 - 790 92%
SAT Writing: 700 - 790 92%

Harvard:
SAT Critical Reading: 700 - 800 98%
SAT Math: 700 - 790 98%
SAT Writing: 690 - 790 98%

Stanford:
SAT Critical Reading: 660 - 760 96%
SAT Math: 680 - 790 96%
SAT Writing: 660 - 760 96%

Stanford is 50-100 points (total) below HYP, which means less overlap with HYP and thus fewer number of cross-admits.

basketballbabe13 · May 1, 2009, 7:43pm

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1) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
2) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
3) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
4) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
5) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
6) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
7) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, MIT
8) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: HYSM
9) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
10) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
11) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO:Harvard,Princeton
12) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
13) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
14) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
15) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
16) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
17) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
18) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Princeton
19) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard, Princeton
20) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Princeton, Stanford
21) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
22) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
23) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
24) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT, Stanford
25) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton,Stanford, MIT
26) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
27) Harvard-ALSO ADMITTED TO : MIT
28) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, MIT
29) Princeton-ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
30) Harvard–ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
31) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Stanford, MIT
32) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
33) MIT – ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
34) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
35) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
36) Yale- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
37) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
38) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
39) MIT- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
40) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
41) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard, Stanford
42) MIT-ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
43) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
44) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
45) Harvard- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
46) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
47)MIT- also admitted to Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Princeton.

Cross-Admit Yield

H: 11/23

Y: 13/28

P: 11/28

S: 4/16

M: 8/18

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ewho · May 1, 2009, 7:55pm

I think that this is complete false. Rutgers must have more cross-admits with HYP than Stanford does, since almost everyone applied to HYP applied to Rutgers as a safety school in New Jersey. It has nothing to do with SAT scores.

Professor101 · May 1, 2009, 8:04pm

^^ Sorry, Stanford fan. I’ll let the numbers speak.

ewho · May 1, 2009, 8:15pm

This biased result is similar to the one of last year, and Stanford will lose for sure as before, just not for the reason you gave. I am actually glad to see this. Only the top 150-200 students matters, like faraday who does not go after the names. BTW, what was your second choice, faraday?

Professor101 · May 1, 2009, 8:28pm

My reasoning is based on SAT data and you don’t have any data to back your statement up.
It is a very simple concept. Let’s say if Stanford admits only students with 600-700 SAT and Harvard admits only people with 710-800, in that case there would be ZERO cross-admit.

ewho · May 1, 2009, 8:31pm

Reason #1: the name
Reason #2: go back to reason #1. :-)

I partially agree with you on the standard Stanford follows. It is just that they don’t run Stanford like a magnet high school. They will try to get the top students, not as many as the HP do, and the rest on the lower scores in SAT. They create a class just like a good private high school, and everyone is happy. A good student in high school is still a good student in Stanford, unlike in P and M.

Professor101 · May 1, 2009, 8:38pm

^^We are talking about the number of cross-admits, not who choose over whom. The latter could depend on name or reputation.

basketballbabe13 · May 1, 2009, 8:41pm

repost.

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1) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
2) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
3) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
4) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
5) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
6) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
7) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, MIT
8) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: HYSM
9) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
10) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
11) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO:Harvard,Princeton
12) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
13) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
14) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
15) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
16) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
17) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
18) MIT - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Princeton
19) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard, Princeton
20) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Princeton, Stanford
21) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
22) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
23) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
24) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT, Stanford
25) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton,Stanford, MIT
26) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
27) Harvard-ALSO ADMITTED TO : MIT
28) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, MIT
29) Princeton-ALSO ADMITTED TO: MIT
30) Harvard–ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
31) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale, Stanford, MIT
32) Stanford - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
33) MIT ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
34) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
35) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
36) Yale- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
37) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
38) Harvard - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
39) MIT- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
40) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
41) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard, Stanford
42) MIT-ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
43) Princeton - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Yale
44) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Princeton
45) Harvard- ALSO ADMITTED TO: Stanford
46) Yale - ALSO ADMITTED TO: Harvard
47)MIT- also admitted to Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Princeton.

Cross-Admit Yield

H: 11/23

Y: 13/28

P: 11/28

S: 4/16

M: 8/18

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faraday · May 1, 2009, 10:14pm

To ewho:

Harvard/Stanford was actually my second choice. I was a bit turnt off by the elitism of the ivies, which was why I chose MIT over Harvard/Princeton/Yale.

I actually feel a bit like a prestige grubber, for applying to so many top schools (HYPSMC), but back then, I was really worried I wouldn’t get in anywhere.

curious77 · May 1, 2009, 10:32pm

To Professor 101:
Stanford is the only school in the bunch that provides D1 athletic scholarships. This impacts the SAT scores of admits.
And Faraday: “turnt” ?

ewho · May 1, 2009, 10:35pm

You will shine at MIT. curious: I believe that faraday was an international student?

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