@Noahdutch the full committee will be meeting throughout the end of november into the second week of december. I believe the last scheduled date is december 5th.
Getting deferred gives you a small bit of hope to hang on to, and that hope can be really painful after a while. While getting rejected can be just as painfulI(if not more painful), it allows you to move on a bit quicker.
@MaybeHarvard2022 I’d rather be outright rejected. That way, I’d have a definite answer when people ask me about it and my extended family would stop bothering me.
FYI, there is no statistical basis for such a claim. I know plenty of people that were rejected for Harvard and accepted to Yale/Princeton, and vice versa. Unfortunately, there are no tea leaves to be read at any college with single digit admissions rates.
^With a deferral rate in excess of 70% historically and an EA admissions rate of around 15%, only 15%± of EA applicants have been rejected historically (at least the past few years that I checked). While there are plenty of non cross admits after the dust has settled, you would have to assume there was something deficient in the app’s of a great number of EA rejects given the huge deferral rate relative to the reject rate. You have just been given a very relevant data point. Maybe the stat’s were at or below the 25th percentile and that “amazing” EC wasn’t really so amazing. Time to reassess the reality of reaches, matches and safeties. If the stats were solidly in line, the candidate may want to think about revisiting their LoR’s and their essays. In any event, imo if you are rejected, some type of mid course correction is required, whether it be the selectivity of the schools you are targeting and/or changing up parts of your app that you can still control.
So I just realized that I had to submit a transcript for any summer college programs I might have attended… the transcript just got sent today. I had called the admissions office last week and they told me it wasn’t too late to submit it but that was like a week and a half ago. Is it too late? Hvard has my regular transcript and my SAT and AP, was wondering if lack of this supplementary transcript is grounds for denial
@skieurope @ anyone who might know
The lack of it would be grounds for denial, if this was a credit program. But you sent it in, so the point is moot - you’re fine.
@MaybeHarvard2022 I’m aware, but today they’re starting to make final decisions.
@skieurope What is a credit program? I did receive college credit from it, but it was not through my high school. It was an external program through another university. I was just afraid that it would be too late for committee rounds and that the regional admissions officer has already trashed my app.
Either/or - it does not matter. All college credits especially have to be reported. Harvard, like many colleges, uses the National Student Clearinghouse for education verification, so one does not want to have something show there that is not on the application.
Regardless, you asked Harvard, they said it was fine to send it in now, and you sent it. Don’t worry about it.
@skieurope Thanks for the clarification. My transcript was sent through the National Student Clearinghouse so if they wanted to check through them it would be there too.
Now it’s time to just keep my fingers crossed!
why does being an international Asian girl hurt my chances? I’ve seen people say this on other threads…
Is it because of the expectations?
^It’s because of the overall low admissions rates for international students. Use this link to see how many students from your country currently attend Harvard College. http://www.hio.harvard.edu/statistics
For instance, if you are Indian there are currently 22 students from India or likely 4-6 students per class (which means probably 6-8 are accepted/year). If you are from China, there are currently 59 students from China, or about 15/class.
@skieurope should I call and ask about why my interview report hasn’t been uploaded yet?
@BKSquared is correct, but there’s more. I don’t think the female has anything to do with it, but being international limits anyone’s chances. Many colleges at this tier impose either a hard or soft cap on international students. Harvard is about 11-12%. While Harvard specifically does not segregate admissions rates for internationals, it is probably half the overall admissions rate, At MIT, which does publish international acceptance rates, the percentage is even lower.
http://mitadmissions.org/apply/process/stats
The expectations for all admitted students is the same, IMO.
So I called and the person I spoke to said the interview report isn’t supposed to show up on the applicant portal.
@MaybeHarvard2022 it isn’t, my interviewer told me that too
You answered your own question. But as I’ve said before, the portal is not an all seeing eye nor is it meant to be a checklist or a way of reading tea leaves.
I’m told in the olden days, people used to have to put everything into things called envelopes and then stick them in a blue box on the sidewalk, and have no further visibility to the application until an envelope with the decision came in the mail weeks or months later. For now, all anyone can/should do is cross their fingers, and hopefully do something fun to get their minds off this, until decisions come out 12/12.
@skieurope could you argue that expectations for URMs are different than those for white/Asian applicants though?
URM only comes into play for domestic applicants, and the user was asking about international admissions.
The expectations are that all admitted applicants will succeed at Harvard. But yes, and I’ve said this before, a black male applicant will be prized even without a 4.0/1600/36 stats. But make no mistake: Harvard will not admit any applicant who is not capable of doing the work. If one gets to Harvard, nobody at Harvard will ask you for your stats or wonder how you got in.