Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, and Amherst: Please Tell Me What You Think!

<p>I'm considering sending transfer applications to Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, and Amherst. I'm debating whether I should bother; I would really appreciate it if you could go through my information - long as it is - and offer me your opinion. I'm from India and attend college there, but I lived in Saudi Arabia between the ages of seven and eighteen. I went to a small U.S. high school there that really didn't have much to offer in terms of academics and extracurricular activities, limited by its conservative location and meager funds. I have decent numbers and extracurricular achievements, but nothing stellar. I believe my reasons for seeking a transfer - my current college's lack of professionalism, organization, and academic freedom - are strong. </p>

<p>SAT: 2300 (CR:780 M:720 W:800)
HS GPA: I honestly don't remember. I was valedictorian, with straight A's except for two A-'s in art and history, and one wretched very unfair B+ in technology.
College GPA: 71.5% (68% in one course and 75% on another). Three-quarters of the final percentage comes from the exam, while the rest comes from classwork. My grade, however, is tentative because the university screwed up our results. According to what I've heard, anything above 70% translates to a 4.00, but I'm not sure exactly how colleges in the U.S. will take it. I attend one of the most competitive liberal arts colleges in India; the highest score in class is 77%. I'm still trying to adjust to the Indian system; I went through a lot of emotional stress last term, largely due to the environment and the stark disparity between my college dreams and what I was forced to settle for.</p>

<p>Recommendations are going to be difficult because my teachers barely know me; neither does any college official. The relationship between teacher and pupil is quite weak in India. One professor knows I'm responsible and hardworking and that I write well. An assistant professor knows I'm involved on campus and in class; she also knows that I really like her. But that's it. And I have a feeling anyone I approach with the news that I want to transfer is going to be appalled because my college is very prestigious; no one would be able to fathom why I'd ever want to leave.</p>

<p>My principal extracurricular activities are writing and community service, especially environmental and animal activism. I rescue animals; I'm vegan. I spent many hours volunteering in high school as secretary of student government and as an English tutor. I also performed lead roles in a couple school productions. I served as captain for four varsity volleyball and badminton teams throughout high school, three of which placed first, second, or third in various intra-kingdom tournaments. At college, I'm the founding editor of a campus newspaper and class representative. I haven't won significant recognition for anything except high school academics and athletics; I was consistently on the High Honor Roll and received awards for leadership, Most Valuable Player, and Best Student Athlete.</p>

<p>The thing is, I entered my current college choosing to study English, but one semester later, I've figured out it's not what I want to major in. I'm desperate to study an environmental program like environmental science/biology/studies; I would also love to take courses in creative/journalistic writing or communications. Unfortunately, at my current school, I have none of these options. I can't change my course of study; even if I could, it wouldn't make much of a difference because my college doesn't offer any of the programs I want. To complicate things further, students can't choose courses from varied academic spheres in the system here; we're given a focused one-track curriculum made up almost entirely and exclusively of required courses. I can only take seven courses this year, out of which six are part of the English discipline. Because of this, I'm worried that I won't be qualified enough to transfer to an environmental program, which will inevitably have some sort of focus on science. Harvard told me that the courses I've had to take may not be adequate, and would put me at a disadvantage unless I take S.A.T. tests in science and mathematics (which I'm studying for at the moment).</p>

<p>Phew! That is way too much writing, but I didn't know how else to get all that across. With all of my background considered, do you think I should apply? Would it better my chances to apply as an English major, after which, in the unlikely event of acceptance, I could switch to environmental studies when I get there? Thank you so much for your time and advice!</p>

<p>First, I have to say, your SAT score is very very impressive, but let’s get into the real situation right now.</p>

<p>if whatever you stated regarding your grade is valid, a 71.5% out of 77% = 92.857%. Your not in the top 1% of the class which will make transfer to those schools very very hard. If your explanation is not acceptable for the admission officers, you’ll be out of the consideration immediately. </p>

<p>LOR is very important, i am not sure how can u explain that.</p>

<p>It seems like that you only took 2 classes, in which you scored a 68 and a 75. I suppose that one of those classes is the English class. This may be troublesome because it looks like you knew english pretty well, and you wanted to take an easier way out. However, you still did not do well. </p>

<p>One thing that confused me is that you called your current school as one of the most competitive liberal colleges in India, yet you are complaining that it lacks of professionalism, organization, and academic freedom. From my understanding, a liberal arts college should be able to offer a wide variety of classes for its students.</p>

<p>For transfer apps, most schools are looking for students’ abilities to “hit the ground running”, but from your info, you screw up pretty badly after HS. How can those colleges believe that youll do well after transferring then? Yes, you may, but most likely they won’t have any faith, and sorry to be rude, that means a rejection. </p>

<p>Sorry dude, I would have to say NO, dnt apply.</p>

<p>You have no chance. You clearly have no intention of settling for a lower ranked college, so persuading you otherwise is just pointless. A reality check is in order.</p>

<p>Krazieh0bo, thanks for your reply! The American system of education and its Indian counterpart are two vastly different things; the transition from the former to the latter has been really difficult for me. LOL my college calls itself a liberal arts school because it teaches no professional programs, not because it has diverse academic offerings. I don’t think you understood from my original post that there are no options whatsoever beyond the choice of major. Once a student chooses his or her major, he or she must adhere to a prescribed curriculum which cannot be altered or enhanced in anyway. I took two English courses in the first semester because that was all the college would allow me to take.</p>

<p>justanothertrans, thanks. I don’t know how you could miss the fact that I understand the chances of transferring to any of these colleges is extremely slim. I am well aware that the process is incredibly competitive, and I will not commit suicide if I have to complete my bachelor’s degree elsewhere, which is probably going to be the case. It just won’t be the school that I’m currently attending, that’s for sure. I’m applying to some lower-ranked schools, too.</p>

<p>Yeah, but you purposefully failed to list those lower ranked schools because you assume you will be accepted to them without fail. Until you get confirmation your 71.5 is actually going to equal a 4.0 instead of a 1.8, I don’t see you getting a shot anywhere here. Anything within the top 30 is going to be a high reach for you, even assuming you are credited with a 4.0.</p>

<p>You’re the one assuming things here. I realize there’s a chance of rejection wherever I apply. I just know I have a better chance of getting in at those non-elite schools. And just for your information, all but one of my safeties are outside the U.S., so it would be of no purpose to bring them up here. ;)</p>

<p>Why are you posting here? There is a section on CC devoted to India students, you should ask those from India about your quest and they will better judge your grades and chances.</p>

<p>[India</a> - College Confidential](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/india/]India”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/india/)</p>

<p>Thanks, artloversplus. I should have thought of that. xD</p>