Harvard,yale,princeton-chances?!

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<p>Hello, is there anybody out there who thinks that he/she is able to correctly assess the chances of an international student at HARVARD, YALE, STANFORD, PRINCETON and DARTMOUTH? If yes, I would like you to write down your judgment. As an international student I absolutely don’t know how I compare to my American (and other international peers). Therefore, I depend on your opinion in evaluating my chances of admission at the above schools.
Here are my stats:</p>

<p>-German-Romanian student, 17 years old, attending 13th grade in a prestigious German high school, taking the “Abitur exam” next year (On the internet, the schools mentioned above state that applicants with outstanding results on the Abitur exam qualify for full Advanced Standing or the completion of a master’s degree in only four years)</p>

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<li> Test scores: SAT II German with Listening: 800 (99th percentile)
SAT II Latin: 800 (99th percentile)
SAT II Math IC: 770 (99th percentile)
ACT composite: 32 or above (my practice test scores)
TOEFL: 660 (out of 677 on the paper test)
-GPA: Weighed 1.0 (with 1.0 being the highest and 6.0 being the worst possible GPA)</li>
<li>most demanding course load taken</li>
<li>I skipped 1.5 years of high school and all the courses taken in this period of time</li>
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<p>ACADEMIC HONORS/AWARDS:
- Many awards for being the best maths/physics/biology/history/French/Latin/German/chemistry student in class (about 12 awards)
- Best student in class (overall rating) award: 9-13
- State Math Award, State Latin Award (both 1st prize)
- 2nd prize on the very prestigious “National Latin Language Competition” out of several thousand contenders from all over Germany and Europe
- Admission to the “German Pupils’ Academy”, the highest possible academic honor for German secondary school students; from 11 countries of the European Union only 90 are selected to attend this program mentored by university professors
- Recommendation to the “National Academic Merit Foundation”, the most recognized academic foundation in Germany (includes several Presidents, Nobel Prize winners, entrepreneurs, bishops etc.); if admitted (which is quite probable as the recommendation for admission is the actual hurdle) I would be one of the youngest students ever admitted to this famous foundation
- My two passions: LAW and LATIN
- I began studying “International Economic Law” at a German University in 10th grade, so that I could complete my bachelor of laws-degree in just another 1.5 years; I took the same amount of courses like “normal” students who do not attend high school
- “National Honor of youngest German student attending law school”
- I can speak six languages fluently (German, English, French, Romanian, Latin[Although it is quite difficult, I am able to speak Latin.], Hungarian)
- I have published articles and research papers about Cicero’s “De re publica”, about Vergil, about “Romanian Cartel Law” and about “Practical Manifestation and Theoretical Legitimation of guaranteed human rights in the Federal Republic of German 1949-1999) in various German and Romanian journals
- My teachers and my college counselor all place me in the “One of the top few encountered in my career”-category
- In Romania, I work together with a few lawyers for a organization that supports needy pensioneers who were expropriated under communistic rule; together with these lawyers I have pursued claims for damages and restitution and have won approximately 75,000 $ for these pensioneers to be paid from the Romanian government as compensation</p>

<p>EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES:</p>

<ul>
<li> tennis (singles and doubles): won 12 regional, 5 state-level, 2 national-level and 2 international tournaments in youth tournaments</li>
<li> tennis is my major extracurricular activity as it costs me about 20 hours per week; I don’t have many more ECAs</li>
<li> other ECAs: section editor at the school newspaper (state-level award for article on a common European constitution), I have found a Pre-Law Club, a Study Group:Latin Language, I have organized information sessions on HIV, diabetes etc. and was Class President for two years</li>
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<p>These are my main stats; What do you think? How do you compare to me? What are my chances?
Thanks very much for taking time to read my stuff.</p>

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<p>very good chance</p>

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<p>accepted accepted</p>

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<p>You speak 6 languages? Wow.</p>

<p>I'd say you've got an awesome chance.</p>

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<p>forget freshman admission; you should run for the next harvard president!</p>

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<p>hmmm...i hope you get in cuz if you don't i have NO CHANCE!!!</p>

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<p>i speak 4 languages and i thought i was special lol, dietberd lets talk PM me</p>

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<p>90-100% chance...just don't blow your essays.</p>

<p>BTW: what are your SAT I scores?</p>

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<p>OMG, you are definitely to be accepted</p>

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<p>I concur, you have as good a chance as anyone. But, why did you bother taking the
German SAT II...if you have another language you are fluent in. French for example, would have possibly been a more interesting choice than taking the SAT II in your first language.. This is nitpicking however.</p>

<p>More relevant, if you aqre quite accelerated academicially, why not finish your undergraduate degree in Europe and then come to the US for grad school/law school whatever. You would save a bucket of money that way...</p>

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<p>100% chance, otherwise who does Harvard look for?</p>

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<p>Thanks for your comment.
I haven't taken the SAT I; I decided to take the ACT instead of the SAT I because it is more content-based.</p>

<p>Bye</p>

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<p>You need three SAT II test, but German wouldn't count for you - it is your native, right? Or at least the language of the school instruction? If I were you I would consider taking another SAT II.
Viel Glu:ck fu:r dich!</p>

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<p>Do you know German, manyzhka?</p>

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<p>And you? I'm taking it now (introductory one - so do not write to me in German:) - Ich kann nicht viel Deutsch verstehen.</p>

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<p>No, I don't speak German. Know just - Mutter, Vierwolf (wrong?)</p>

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Were you accepted?

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This thread is 11 years old… OP is probably a grandmother by now :wink:

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Apologies for bringing this thread up again but it might be interesting for future international students: He applied to Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth and Brown and got accepted everywhere but Harvard - waitlisted. His acceptances have been extensively covered in German news (New York Times equivalents). He went to Stanford where he majored in Mathematics (If I remember correctly, his cumulative GPA was 4.053/4.0 GPA) and now lives in Frankfurt, Germany, working for a private equity fund.

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@kaisyteknon I hope OP continued doing all those amazing things