Harvard? Yale? Princeton? Columbia? UPenn?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Ok so here goes. I am a white jewish female from NJ (no points there!) If it matters I was born in England moved here in 96. So anyway I guess I'll list my stats and please, any feedback will be read. (I was going to say appreciated but I may not appreciate it but I will certainly read it lol) </p>

<p>GPA: 93.5 unweighted - my school doesn't weight(huge upward trend, junior year gpa about 97)</p>

<p>SAT: 730 CR 710M 660W = 2100 (Am retaking June, shocked by writing score, hopefully it will improve-practice tests were like 750s)</p>

<p>SAT II: haven't taken yet, will take oct/nov in us history, math IIC and maybe lit. </p>

<p>Classes: taking 4 AP's total, max that school allows, and am in honors for math and science. I attend an extremely rigorous, dual curriculum school, which means that in addition to math, science, history,english I have four other judaic classes every day. </p>

<p>APs: us history, biology, english, calculus AB</p>

<p>Rank: It is a very small, very competitive school, that doesn't rank. My rank would be approx 15/50 (50 is the biggest grade we've ever had!) Which I know looks bad but It needs to be taken in context. </p>

<p>ECs (prob my weakest point other than class rank):
Student Ambassador Committee : 9, 10, 11, 12
Drama Club: 9,11,12
Newspaper: 11,12 (reporter, then world news editor)
Charity committe: 9, 12 (chair of committee)
Literary Journal: 12
Worked as Youth Leader in my synagouge: (8,9,10,11,12)
Worked as Youth Leader in backyard camp during summer (9,10,11)</p>

<p>Well I guess thats it.
Please rate my chances at these and offer any other possible match schools. Thank you!!</p>

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<p>Both your SATs and your GPA are marginal for HYP. Your ECs actually look pretty good. Editor on the paper, literary journal, and drama club are all focused. The rest are religion related which is fine as well and show some leadership and responsibility. Your location won't help as you noted. You really need to find some other schools to love and apply to. The Ivies you mentioned will all be big reaches. How about Smith, Wellesley, Mt Holyoke? Visit before you dismiss them. Rice might be a match/reach. Scripps in California.</p>

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<p>bump please!</p>

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<p>As bandit says, you're stats are all pretty nice, but nothing really sets you apart from the stereotypical HYP applicant.</p>

<p>Everything looks fine, and from the looks of it, you will have as good of a chance as anyone, but I would certainly apply to a couple of safeties. </p>

<p>If you have your mind set on an Ivy league education, you may want to try Cornell ED. From the looks of it, you'd have a pretty good chance at getting in. Although Cornell's RD acceptance rate is around the same as the other ivies (sub 20%), its ED rate is in the 40% range, so thats a very good chance, at least for an Ivy.</p>

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<p>I don't think your SAT is anywhere near the margin of HYP</p>

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<p>I don't think Cornell's RD acceptance rate is below 20%...its composite rate is 29%, and there is no way the ED rate can lift it up that much</p>

<p>Anyways, Yale's 50% range is from 1370-1520, and your score is equal to 1400 on the old test. So ya, it is below average FOR YALE</p>

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<p>Just curious, how do you get a score on the writing section of a practice SAT???</p>

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<p>I don't know I took a course and the teacher had a collegeboard grid that gave you the score, plus I took the march test recently which gave you an official score and I got a 720.</p>

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<p>"I don't think Cornell's RD acceptance rate is below 20%...its composite rate is 29%, and there is no way the ED rate can lift it up that much"</p>

<p>Their ED acceptance rate was 42% or 43% I think. So their RD acceptance rate is in the high teens.</p>

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<p>Well, this thread was really just to satisfy a hypothesis I had, which was more than satisfied - people care more if you ask about HYPM than about other, competitive LACs. The sensationalist names in the title can't stop people from looking, and when I posted looking at different schools, I got much less response. Either that or its just that people prefer giving negative feedback, can't say I blame you, it is more fun!</p>

<p>Well, Relax, I know I have no shot at HYPMS, and yes I have plenty of safeties in mind, and I know by SAT scores sucks, and that I should pretty much kill myself right now.<br>
But all that aside, now that we're on the topic of me (my favorite topic) anyone want to give me realistic chances on school I have an actual interest (and chance) at?</p>

<p>Barnard
NYU
UPenn (yes, I know its in the title - I promise its the only one)
Brandeis
Boston U
U of Maryland
Rutgers</p>

<p>So if you would like to give me my chances at these schools, I would love it.
And, if you would like to yell at me for screwing with all of your minds and performing experiments with your brains - well I would love that too.</p>

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<p>Yeah i agree with cool2bars completely. It's just more interesting to read about people applying to Ivies. However, another reason why fewer people respond when you ask questions about these second-rate schools is because (in general) we tend to know less about them. As for the list of schools you posted, the only two i'm really familiar with are UPenn and NYU. I'd say UPenn is a reach, and NYU is a match/slight reach. I'd consider taking the SAT again and maybe do something about your ECs.</p>

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<p>hey- im applying to a few of the same schools :)
i'd say HYP are jsut out of reach in terms of your sat scores, but everything else looks up to par. and you still have a chance to raise your score.
UPenn is a reach but not like a far-out reach, you should def apply early.
NYU and Barnard are matches
The rest are all safeties </p>

<p>Best of luck with everything! :)</p>

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<p>If I were you, I would probably try for Barnard ED. With a 1440 (sorry.... old SAT person here) and without a stronger rank, Penn is a long shot even for ED, especially because, judging from my experience of being a Jewish white girl from NJ, you won't be the only Yeshiva girl with good stats applying. </p>

<p>A cautionary tale: A girl from my school got into Barnard ED with a 1400, ranked ~ 40/360. Another girl, vacillating between Barnard/Penn ED, went for Penn with a 1520 SAT, rank of about 20. Not only did she not get into Penn, she was ultimately rejected from Barnard as well. That is an extreme case, but things like that do happen.</p>

<p>One thing you haven't mentioned, which might change your situation a bit, is whether or not you have a particular skill in one subject area. If you do, and think your teachers will give excellent recs on the order of "this is the best student I've ever had" it might be worth it to reach for Penn.</p>

<p>Oh, and you'll get into your other schools without a problem. Are you applying to Cornell/JHU/LACs? If not, you might want to look into those schools further.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

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<p>Your stats are about the same as mine.. I hope we are alright.. :-)</p>

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<p>I thought long and hard about applying Barnard ED, since it is 100% my number one choice and I would love love love to go there, but the problem is that Barnard does not allow deferrals if you apply ED, and being a nice yeshiva girl I have my heart set on defering for a year and attending a seminary in Israel for the year. So unless they change that policy, which I highly doubt they will, I really don't think I'm going to apply ED to Barnard, I'll just have to pin my hopes on RD, with other decent matches backing me up (NYU, Brandeis). Thanks for the advice though, its nice to hear from another white Jewish girl!</p>

<p>Moni - yeah I have my fingers crossed! Where are you applying?</p>

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<p>bumpety bump</p>

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<p>Most of the Ivies (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Brown)...just to laugh at myself... but other than that, Rice, Notre Dame (where I have connections and will probably go), UF (cause i live in Florida and I just may have the urge to get paid to go to school), NYU, Georgetown... I think thats most of them.</p>

<p>See, we're the same in SAT score (math and reading at least) and don't worry, your writing will go up. We will have taken the same SAT IIs, some of the same AP's, our ECs are comparable. Mine might be a little better...but you have that whole Jewish girl at a competitive school thing.... I go to a stupid school. You just wait, I bet you we get into the same places... but it should be fun to watch. How'd you do on the PSAT...all that national merit stuff?</p>

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<p>lol PSAT, thats funny. No I didn't actually have any motivation until well...now. So I got 198 on the PSAT (63cr 64m 71w) and definitely no national merit scholarship!!
Thats a nice long list of schools - I wasn't even planning on applying to any ivies except maybe UPenn, do you really think I even have a shot? If I brought my SAT up to 2200 would it affect my chances at all? Eh I really am not sure if I even want to go an ivy, except Columbia but I won't get it so thats what Barnard is for!! (don't tell them I said that)
Well, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for me and you, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.</p>

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<p>bumpety bump</p>

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<p>Just apply to the Ivies cause you can... Our scores aren't really out of range or anything, just wow them in the interview and write good essays. I figure we have a decent chance...as good as most people anyways.
I'm partially applying to the Ivies just to show the kids at school that even I (the smartest kid they kid, how silly) can't get into Harvard and all those places.</p>