Harvard!

<p>ACADEMICS</p>

<p>CLASS RANK: 1/436 (standard maxed out schedule w/ several AP's, Oklahoma School of Science and Mathamatic Attendance Jr. Year)</p>

<p>SAT I: 2220</p>

<p>M: 740
CR: 720</p>

<h2>W: 760</h2>

<pre><code>2220
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<p>SAT II (assumption scores for Nov): </p>

<p>Math 2c (700) Lit (700) U.S. History (700)</p>

<p>** EXTREMELY MEANINGFUL ACTIVITIES**</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Political Campaign Involvement</p></li>
<li><p>Started own Conservative PAC for Local Issue(s) (will have peices of our PAC's work, like Newspaper editorials, in App.)</p></li>
<li><p>Founded Republican Club</p></li>
<li><p>Organizing the re-birth of the Oklahoma State Teenage Republican Convention</p></li>
<li><p>Paged for State Rep.'s and Senator's</p></li>
<li><p>Debated for High School Team E.C. (very hard to do EC)</p></li>
</ul>

<p>** IMPORTANT ACTIVITIES**</p>

<ul>
<li><p>NHS President</p></li>
<li><p>Active in J.S.A.</p></li>
<li><p>Junior Mayor of our city Mayor's Community Service Group</p></li>
<li><p>Mayor of Oklahoma Boys State City</p></li>
<li><p>9th Grade Editor of Jr. High Newspaper (Jr. High goes to 9th where I live)</p></li>
</ul>

<p>NOTE: I have a barrage of other activities, but this is the essence of my application.</p>

<p>Wait, how can you be smart and be a republican? Ahah, I kid but anyways you could conceivably get in, though no matter how good your resume is there is always a chance you will get rejected from schools like Harvard.</p>

<p>1 out of 11, unless they have Affirmative Action for Republicans (in which case, can you, in good conscience, accept admission? ;))</p>

<p>"1 out of 11" </p>

<p>Why so low, mini?</p>

<p>I'm seriously wondering my chances. I know Conservatives are a minority at Harvard and my application definitely reflects my knowledge of this fact, but what, HONESTLY, are my chances of getting into to this exalted place?</p>

<p>Is it feasible? Is it probable? Over or under 50%? I'm applying EA.</p>

<p>What about Yale, Princeton, or Columbia RD?</p>

<p>I didn't just pull it out of the air. On the contrary, I was being very scientific. ;)</p>

<p>I assume the normal admissions rate of 9+%. Your chances are actually lower than that, given no legacy, developmental admit, son of Congressman/Senator, desirable URM, athlete, inventor of a cancer cure, son of an ambassador, or Olympia tiddlywinks champion. But I assume you are a better than average candidate (not requiring financial aid) and that affirmative action for white Oklahoma Republicans basically doubles your chances. Hence 11 to 1. But if you don't apply, your chances are nil.</p>

<p>Yeah,
I had a friend last year with:</p>

<p>SATI: 1600 (CR 800, M 800)
SATII: MathIIC 800, US History 780, Spanish 800, Biology 760</p>

<p>GPA: 4.41 (W)
4.0 (UW)</p>

<p>National Honor Society President
Nationally ranked Violinist
president of other stuff I don't remember
over 500 hours of community service
Awards from essay contests </p>

<p>SHE GOT REJECTED!!!
I have to clue why... I was blown away. Maybe bad recommendations or essays, I don't know...
But oh my gosh...</p>

<p>It's like Goliath stepped on a land mine</p>

<p>I know a kid with waaaayy worse stats and he got deferred but was told if he transferred after freshman year he'd get in for sure. he is black.</p>

<p>Harvard: 15-20%</p>

<p>harvard has so many over-qualified students that it has to reject many of them. althought you think you're qualified george (and you probably are), you still face a significant chance of being rejected</p>

<p>Honestly, does being a Republican, an "under-represented minority" at Harvard if you ask me, help me by a significant degree? Seriously, if Harvard is lacking in Republicans, and Republicans can help Harvard's political atmosphere become more diverse and active, doesn't this give a passionate Republican an edge in Harvard's acceptance process?</p>

<p>POINT BEING: I'd like to think I have a legitimate "hook", something that differentiates me from the thousands of other over qualified students applying with me. Am being objective in this thinking?</p>

<p>Furthermore, and I'm being totally cynical here, how much does being from Oklahoma help? Not from what Harvard says, but from what Harvard has actually done in the past, will being from Oklahoma significantly help me in the application process?</p>

<p>Please be objective, and I appreciate everyone's kindness in answering my questions.</p>

<p>you could spread the love and apply to two or three low stat admission schools like Harvard, but you would still have the same odds. That is what I would do..that and apply to actual Match colleges that I visited and got serious about. Your stats and hook are just not predictable for any selective school--Duke, Washington U, Rice... so accept that and make a plan that includes match colleges. Write your best ever essays and turn in a coherent not overblown activity sheet. Prepare your references with why each school is a potential fit for you and explain to them what your odds really are.</p>

<p>Why would Harvard want MORE Republicans?? While i'm certainly not bashing classical Republicanism, i'm afraid the fact that you are a modern Republican says something about your character: if you support the current administration, that means you also support elitism, cronyism, poor moral and economic decisions, class- , religious-, and sexual orientation-based prejudice, blindness toward other cultures, the dangerous fanaticism inherent in extreme evangelical Christianity, and war. Obviously admissions officers are instructed not to discriminate against prospective students on the basis of political inclinations, but as the Bush administration leads our country to certain ruin, dragging a significant portion of the wider world along with us, it becomes ever more difficult to separate Republicanism from criminal insanity.</p>

<p>"Honestly, does being a Republican, an "under-represented minority" at Harvard if you ask me, help me by a significant degree? Seriously, if Harvard is lacking in Republicans, and Republicans can help Harvard's political atmosphere become more diverse and active, doesn't this give a passionate Republican an edge in Harvard's acceptance process?"</p>

<p>We know what you'd like to think. More than half of Harvard students have families paying full freight, meaning minimum family incomes of $160k, with the median likely well more than double that. It likely means that there are a HUGE number of kids from active Republican families. Now some of them may rebel for now, though lots of them are going to end up at dad's law firm, or the bank, or the investment company. I can't imagine why you'd think Harvard lacks Republicans - why don't you take a look at the Board of Trustees? or the social clubs?</p>

<p>Again, your odds as an average applicant - no development admit, athlete, etc, are roughly 1 in 20, so your "URM" status might double that - you might be 1 in 10. It has nothing to do with you - just numbers.</p>

<p>whoops, that wasn't very objective, was it? ha ha
(i meant my post, not yours, mini)</p>

<p>Note that I will most definitely be applying for financial aid. My parents aren't paying for a dime of my college education. In fact, they don't want me even applying to Harvard to begin with because they think I'm a full to be wanting to get myself in so much debt.</p>

<p>BTW dharmabandit, this is neither the time nor the place, but, no that wasn't objective lol.</p>

<p>damn, i was hoping you would argue with me! ;)</p>

<p><a href="http://hcs.harvard.edu/%7Egop/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://hcs.harvard.edu/~gop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The Harvard Republican Club has well over 800 members, and is made up of a small fraction of the number of Republicans on campus. I can't see how you would be making the campus "more diverse", unless it is "Republicans receiving a handout"? ;)</p>

<p>Mini I'm aware of the HCR, but didn't realize they had in excess of 800 members. Where on the site does it give this information as I've looked but can't find it. </p>

<p>Even still, you cannot tell me seriously that Republicans comprise a majority of active political students at Harvard. Even if the club had this large membership of a membership, as far as students using politics as a "hook" to get accepted goes, Republicans are the vaunted URM's.</p>

<p>1-10 shot. I'd recommend trying </p>

<p><a href="http://www.lunet.edu/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.lunet.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Good luck.</p>