<p>I know that there's a "Chances of UCLA Eng Admit vs Berkeley" thread, and I just wanted to know what a Harvey Mud wait-lister's chances would be to be admitted into UCB's EECS - Computer Science program.</p>
<p>Bump! fgfgfg</p>
<p>You have a shot. I mean, I'd feel better saying you're certainly in if you got solidly into Mudd. Generally you have to have very high grades and scores, and demonstrate you're a strong math/science candidate for either. I think you have a good shot if you're in state. I'd expect you to get into Mudd if you were to get into Berkeley from OOS. Well, assuming Mudd doesn't practice strange, random admissions. </p>
<p>Maybe I'm not the one to advise, since I got into Mudd and Berkeley. Try someone who got into one and not the other.</p>
<p>mathboy, why did you choose to matriculate at Cal instead of Mudd?</p>
<p>Okay, thanks mathboy98.</p>
<p>I think it's interesting how US News ranks HMC's selectivity as #1, with the only other university with the same ranking is Harvard University. Is it that hard to get into HMC? HMC needs a better marketing team.</p>
<p>I got waitlisted at HMC last year and I'm engineering-undeclared at Cal. If I got in, so can you. Maybe. Good luck!</p>
<p>Ah, well the major difference between Cal and Mudd is that Cal is a large school with just more in the way of choice of offerings. I'm sure I could've fit in great at either Mudd or Caltech in terms of the actual students there. What seemed to fit me better at a school like Berkeley is the academic freedom + enormity of offerings. Freedom is key. Even with a math department like Cal's, I am often so finicky that I'd rather start my own independent reading course and do material my way, for whatever reason. I think that one would have to go through much, much more at either Mudd or Caltech (and survive) before reaching such a stage. </p>
<p>To give you a picture, upon further reflection, the only other school I wish I'd applied to, which I didn't apply to, is Harvard. Harvard + Berkeley (not even Princeton!) seem like they'd be the ideal choices for me, given what their math faculty specializes in, PLUS the structure of their math offerings.</p>
<p>EDIT: If you want to know about the ultimate stage of finickiness + hating all classic presentations of subject matter, check out a tremendously accomplished professor at Stanford, Brian Conrad -- his webpage, I mean. The man hates basically every book he comes across, and ends up writing hundreds of pages at times as supplementary material when he teaches classes. I wonder if I'll be like this if I am a professor :) (referring to the teaching style, with of course only feeble hopes of being as accomplished).</p>