<p>Dude its much harder to crack 700+ on the gmat....believe me! </p>
<p>and a high 2 low 3 wont cut it....if any mba's are on here please come and give these kids a reality check lol. (nothing personal man)</p>
<p>With a high 2, I think your chances are zero to none for this program.</p>
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<p>This makes it even tougher for you to get in.</p>
<p>@VectorWega: I figured with my GPA my chances are pretty much zero to get into this program. </p>
<p>I was just wondering whether my ethnicity would make a difference since I am attending university in Canada. And not just for this university and program, but for other ones when I apply after I graduate and work for a few years.
And also what do you think about my extra curricular activities? Undergoing leadership training ,being the president of a club I founded, VP of another club, mentoring 2 freshman students, taking active part in Orientation, playing football etc. I was just wondering about ECs because in Canada while applying for universities they don't ask for EC. The philosophy here is that being in the football team won't help you pass a calculus course(read somewhere on the forum lol ). In the US it seems different. So what is the situation there? If you don't mind can you please enlighten me on that?</p>
<p>And also do they take into account that engineering is much harder than other majors? Not just for this program, but MBAs in general. And am also taking a couple of graduate level courses. And also the fact that in Canadian universities there is a lot of grade deflation. And UofT is a top school, atleast for engineering.It was ranked #7 in the whole of North America. Doesn't that mean ANYTHING? You think adcoms know that or consider the grade deflation stuff?</p>
<p>@ixjuntxi: I was just wondering how old are you to call others a "kid"? And have you made it to Harvard or other top MBA? And people do get good scores on GMAT and they are human and I would assume not all of them Einsteins or Shakespeares.</p>
<p>Since top MBA programs strive for "diversity", people of certain backgrounds face increased competition. Males from India would fit that bill.</p>
<p>As for pre-graduation ECs, they generally mean nothing for admission to graduate business school. However, obviously here they would be relevant. That being said, I don't see how your ECs are much different than anyone else's. Sure, if you were a member of the USC football team and had a year of eligibility left that would increase your ability to get into USC's business school. However, this is Harvard. They don't care. They are looking for the best of the best, and your GPA would make it quite difficult to get in even with 4-5 years work experience much less in this 2+2 program.</p>
<p>As for being an engineering student...34% of all Harvard MBAs come from an "Engineering and Natural Sciences" background. However, the class average undergrad GPA is still 3.5+. </p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that anyone in this 2+2 program will bring the average work experience statistic down and admissions will most certainly want these applicants to be a positive pull on the average GPA and average GMAT.</p>
<p>Personally, I'm guessing the candidates they are looking for are more likely to have a 3.8+ GPA and a 750+ GMAT.</p>
<p>Ah I see. Thanks for the info brother!</p>
<p>Dude, don't try to take the smallest piece of my post and flip it on me...i wasn't trying to insult you nor did i mean anything by that....its not different from you using guys...</p>
<p>And yes i do understand that people do get 700+...but you have to understand the GMAT is a computer adaptive test...which gets harder as you get more and more questions right so its much harder to do well than the SAT....getting a 700+ is similar to getting a 1500+ on the SAT.</p>
<p>yes</p>
<p>2+2 is looking more at women and minorities... so, if you don't have a 700 gmat I'd still apply.</p>
<p>MBAs are about diversity, and it's very important imo</p>
<p>since its the first year, we'll see the stats if they release em. ill be in round 2.</p>
<p>ill likely have a 3.0 from princeton and a 650 - 700 gmat.
keep in mind, im doing engineering. i could've done a liberal arts and pulled a higher gpa, since physics killed me freshman year.</p>
<p>Amnesia, how are you doing this year? I remember you posted last year concerned about your physics/gpa.</p>
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<p>Diversity is great if you are talking about diverse work backgrounds. However, if you are talking about diversity based solely on the race/gender of people with limited work experience then that is not positive IMO. If what you are saying is true (that a sub-700 GMAT and mediocre GPA would be fine in this program) then that would certainly lower the value of a Harvard MBA imo.</p>
<p>^^completely agree...the above posters believe that because they are still ugrad students that the admission standards will lower..if so, they are in for a rude awakening....3.5+ with a 700+ gmat is the standard for schools like HBS,Wharton, and Stanford GSB. Coming from an ivy/top schools or a school like Chicago and Cornell with severe grade deflation just means the students can get closer to the 3.5..not below it.</p>
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Amnesia, how are you doing this year? I remember you posted last year concerned about your physics/gpa.
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<p>the first year was rough because of physics</p>
<p>If you got the SAT to get into Princeton, you should be able to study your way to a 700 GMAT.</p>
<p>It is targeted for students outside of the business and econmics world. It is Harvard's way of drawing a more diverse student body. This system is for someone like an engineer, who could have use with an MBA. NOT for an undergrad business/econ student.</p>
<p>any more news about this?</p>
<p>On what information is the statement based that the Harvard 2/2 program is not for Econ majors? Econ is very different from business.</p>
<p>is this program to target science/engineering students or women/minorities?</p>
<p>can someone Choose to work for 3 years instead of 2?</p>
<p>I would think being able to major in engineering at Princeton would put you line for more of a 750-800 GMAT. From what I have seen, generally half of your SAT score becomes the GMAT (before the days of the writing section).</p>
<p>I'm only a sophomore, but just for my curiosity: is anyone applying to this?</p>
<p>i have a question...what is the program for seniors called? I am at BC and am triple majoring in finance, econ and math. so I really want to go to HBS but since i am taking finance HBS 2+2 is not for me. but what I am interested in applying as a senior.</p>