Have Any Good Newhouse Rating Sources?

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<p>I keep reading on these boards how Newhouse is a top if not the top journalism school in the Country. However, as U.S. News & World Reports does not rank journalism schools, I was interested in knowing the sources being used. I'm seen some attempt at ratings on the internet, but found nothing authentitative. I'm aware of the Newspro survey, but it was a limited pool and the voters' schools were not listed. </p>

<p>Anyone have any good sources listing Newhouse as one of the top J-Schools? Thanks.</p>

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<p>Not sure if serious.</p>

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<p>^^Not sure why you question if I am serious. My D received admission into Newhouse and some of the other J-schools with good reputations. Unlike many at SU, my D received no FA or merit. Thus, I’m trying to be an educated consumer and decide whether I want to spend a quarter of a million of dollars on an education she could receive elsewhere for a fraction thereof, including other schools that are offering her merit. Thus my inquiry about whether there were any authoritative sources for J-school rankings. I’ve researched this issue extensively and could not find any. Again, U.S. News does not rank J-Schools, I’ve read, because it is too subjective. The Newspro article had too small of a return to be considered reliable and the voters did not indicate their own college to eliminate any bias. I’m well aware of the alumni of Newhouse, but am also aware of alumni at other schools. To make the issue more cloudy, I’m also well aware of many broadcasters (i.e., CNN’s Anderson) who had no formal journalism training. Anyone out there with any authoritative sources (as opposed to, say, a blog with no basis for the methodolody ever stated)? Thanks to anyone who can help with this decision.</p>

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<p>@ Covertwo, Full disclosure: I am a Syracuse alum and a parent of a student who was accepted to Newhouse. We received very little financial aid from SU, and my repeated overtures (e-mails and calls) to the SU Financial Aid Office to get her aid package reviewed have been met with a stern “we do not have the ability to increase financial aid at this time” - this is an actual quote from an e-mail.</p>

<p>Now, to answer your question, I do not believe that you are going to find more information regarding rankings than what you have already found. Anecdotally, I can tell you that in speaking with a few journalists on the East, West, and Gulf coasts, and in the Midwest, all have noted that SU is second to none in journalism. There are Newhouse graduates all over the country working for local media outlets. I was in Jacksonville, FL this past weekend and while channel surfing I accidentally turned-in on a local TV station only to hear a story about the local television station sportscaster having to apologize to one of the anchors for predicting that SU was going to lose against Indiana in the NCAA basketball championship as she was a Syracuse alum. I have seen Newhouse alums working for local TV news in places as remote as Medford, Oregon, and on major radio stations such as Chicago’s WBEZ, where the traffic reporter was until recently a Syracuse alum.</p>

<p>There are others on CollegeConfidential that can better speak of the doors that a Newhouse degree could open for your daughter. Although I am not able to locate the website now, I have heard that there is one that indicates the placements/salaries of recent Newhouse graduates, which ultimately is as important, or more important, than the ranking of the school.</p>

<p>Having said all of this, my DD is unlikely to attend Newhouse. Unfortunately, we fall into a category where we receive very little aid. We have another child who will be going to school in four years, and sending DD to SU would not only break the proverbial piggy bank, but put us into debt. I know that it is probably too late for your DD, but there are other options - schools of journalism that cost less and/or offer better financial aid and are highly regarded: Northwestern, Mizzou, USC, and the Cronkite School at ASU come to mind.</p>

<p>In any case, I admire you for doing your homework before committing to any school. We are doing the same and the next month is going to be exciting and interesting. Best of luck to you and your DD.</p>

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<p>As a parent of a Newhouse senior, I can offer you some info that was sent over intersession about Newhouse students getting jobs. The letter stated that most Newhouse grads will not have job offers at graduation but 90% will be working in their field 6 months after graduation. It also emphasized that entry level jobs are not advertised in these fields but that instead the best way to get a job was to network. There is a Newhouse networking alumni forum who are interested in helping new grads. Also, there is a career fair in April where major outlets come to interview students. These opportunities have been invaluable compared to my S who graduated from NYU 3 years ago and received little help (although ultimately he did get his job thru the NYU job posting board). However, that said, I’m sure there are many other schools that offer similar help for a fraction of the cost. Also, as you noted, one of the frustrating things about the communication field is how employers do not always value a degree specifically in the field and are just as interested in other majors.</p>

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<p>To the OP: other schools; what are they?
where does she want to land after graduation?
what specifically does she want to major in; communications v journalism v film (alot of the other schools separate these into different sub colleges re: Northwestern/USC)</p>

<p>The field is all about networking; the Newhouse name on the transcript gets the students in the door, as does Northwestern, USC, UMissouri etc…</p>

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<p>D wants to go into broadcast, but likes PR as a fallback. However, my understanding is that a double major is not really practical. Concerned about $240,000 investment for a job that pays around $30,000 for first job, according to last Newhouse stats I saw on their web. She was admitted into Newhouse (no money offered), Indiana, Arizona State, Ohio University, Ohio State and others. Does not want to live in downtown phoenix (ASU), which offered good merit and honors;Indiana offered some merit and honors but is going through a transition, has concerns about Ohio U’s party rep (some merit aid) and overall school ranking and U. of MD. only offered Spring 2014 admission. She likes Ohio State the most, which is the closest, cheapest, offers merit and honors and best U.S. News overall ranking, but offers no specific broadcast journalism degree (public communications journalism offered), although classes are offered in it. We do have fantastic industry contacts for internships, etc. She did love Syracuse when she visited, but is leaning toward Ohio State due to price and, to some extent, distance and overall ranking.</p>

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<p>I totally agree that if you have industry contacts, and if she would like to be in the Midwest, then OSU is the best choice…</p>

<p>Yes, starting salaries are in the $30,000 range; $240,000 is WAY too much to spend when she has other options like OSU</p>