<p>Why ask for people’s opinions when you’re just going to insult them when they don’t tell you what you want to hear? Facts are facts, if your stats are below MSU’s averages it’s probably going to be difficult for you to get in. Not impossible, just unlikely.</p>
<p>Hey, I’m a new freshman at msu and I have a question for you. If I’m able to meet the gpa requirement to get invited to the honors college after my first semester, is it worth the effort to join it? I had the ACT scores to get in (31), it was just my gpa that was lacking (if I remember right, 3.79). I’m pretty sure I was in the top 20-25% of my class, and I went to one of the top public schools in Michigan. So I’m assuming if I work hard I can make it within the top-10% of my program (which is engineering). I was just wondering if it was worth it to be in the honors college. I could be assuming incorrectly, but I feel it might be more useful to students in other majors. Are their honors courses for higher-level science and engineering classes that would give you an edge? Also, would being a part of the honors college help significantly when applying to grad school or getting a job?</p>
<p>how easy/hard is it to get scholarships for MSU? Does being involved in the honors college reduce tuition costs at all? I have a 3.8 and 29 (retook 9/11) act: does this warrant any aid from MSU?</p>
<p>I know it’s hard to get scholarships from these bigger schools but I was just wondering :)</p>
<p>Does anyone know what the atmosphere of lyman briggs is like? How hard are the courses, what the reps of the students and professors are, ect? Thanks!</p>
<p>Cait411: would it be worth it to join the honors college? Depends. Are there honors classes for upper level science and engineering courses - mostly not. But for all upper level courses you can get an honors option (a little extra work out of class). Honors classes for you would generally be taken for all of your Gen. ed. requirements.<br>
Would being a part of the honors college help you significantly when applying to grad school or getting a job? Not necessarily. But I have applied to several internships within university, and a lot of times just listing the fact that you were in the honors college might give you a tiny extra bit of consideration/make you stand out just a little bit more. I’d say the greatest advantage to being in the HC is priority registration for classes (2+ weeks before most everyone else) and also the fact that you have a ton of substitution options for your gen. ed requirements (instead of taking a lame integrative social science class, you can take any class from the history, economics, political science, sociology, psychology dept etc.) so you have a lot more flexibility in terms of what you can take outside of your major.</p>
<p>Bc2015: how easy/hard is it to get scholarships for MSU? Does being involved in the honors college reduce tuition costs at all? It depends. For the honors college to get in you need to be in the top 5% of your class and also have a 30+ ACT. However, just because you are in the honors college does not mean you get scholarships. I think generally you need to be in the top 5% of your class and have a 33+ ACT to qualify for most incoming freshmen honors college scholarships. However, just because you don’t get scholarships through the honors college doesn’t mean that you don’t have an opportunity to get scholarships through MSU. There are many scholarships that you can be automatically considered for - just make sure to apply before November 1 to get full consideration for scholarships, and keep your eye on the look out for postings about scholarships within your chosen major.</p>
<p>Hermoine822: the atmosphere of lyman briggs.
I’m not in lyman briggs but I’ve heard it is pretty challenging but not unmanageable. I think out of everyone who I have talked to, about half of the students I know are still in lyman briggs while the other half chose to drop out (not necessarily because they didn’t like it, but because they were looking for something else in particular in their program). The atmosphere of the students/holmes hall (where lyman briggs students are situated) are generally more nerdy/intellectual than average. There are a lot more students who study because they need to…however, this doesn’t mean that they don’t party or have fun either (many students do both). Sorry, I don’t know anything about the profs. But the classes in Lyman briggs are a lot smaller than the average lecture hall science class, and you get to know your professors a lot more this way (especially with your classes and your professors’ offices being in the same building that you live in).</p>
<p>to Fa-la-la: Got my app in before school started! 
Transcript received on the 20th actually. So excited that I’m actually applying!</p>
<p>One more: Does MSU take AP credits? if so, what scores would I have to get?</p>
<p>I’m currently in AP U.S. History and AP English. Would these even help someone debating on an engineering, architecture, foreign language, etc major? haha.</p>
<p>@ BC-</p>
<p><a href=“http://admissions.msu.edu/documents/MSU_AP_Equivalencies.pdf[/url]”>http://admissions.msu.edu/documents/MSU_AP_Equivalencies.pdf</a>
^
Here ya go. AP central for MSU.</p>
<p>Yes, they help lol. They get you out of some requirements and AP English (especially if it’s Language) is very useful in helping to write papers in college :)</p>
<p>AP credits got me out of almost all required classes and it also is enabling me to have the option to go for a dual degree rather than a double major.</p>
<p>yessssss. lol</p>
<p>edit: Plymouth? used to live near there. Still visit all the time. great town!</p>
<p>^ I like Plymouth. Not my hometown (I actually lived in Westland most of my life), but I’ve lived there for quite a while. It’s got a bunch of fun things to do year round in the downtown region. Much better than our neighbor Canton :p. </p>
<p>Anyway, hope that chart helps. However, if you plan on doing some kind of residential college- check with the college as to what courses you’re still required to take. I got out of WRA because of AP English but because I am in RCAH, I still had to take their freshmen writing classes. It doesn’t look like from your intended majors that you are looking at RCs, but I’m just giving you a heads up :).</p>
<p>fa-la-la-lena I had a PID before they got my transcript so what does that mean? I’m accepted too?</p>
<p>I actually lived in Westland too! I lived somewhere on Farmington by a church. That’s all I remember because I was so little haha.</p>
<p>When are admission decisions usually released?</p>
<p>^ No set date. I got my decision in less than 4 weeks but I know people that it took months for. It’s just kind of a wait and see game 
</p>
<p>And you probably lived by the Westland Mall then. Fun place, but a bit run down now :/</p>
<p>msufan, I have no idea for sure. Although I’m guessing if you have a PID you are accepted? Perhaps they are basing your acceptance on your reported grades in the application…just wait and see!</p>
<p>On collegeboard’s website it states that Michigan State offers non-need based aid…is this true? I thought U of Michigan didn’t offer any kind of international aid, so I assumed that MSU didn’t offer anything as well. But does MSU actually offer internationals something? And what exactly is non need based aid? (scholarships? merit aid?)</p>
<p>Financial Aid</p>
<pre><code>* International students eligible for non-need-based aid
- Number of enrolled international undergraduates received aid: 133
- Total amount awarded : $963,817
</code></pre>
<p>Non-resident aliens must submit the following financial aid forms:</p>
<pre><code>* Foreign Student Financial Aid Application
</code></pre>
<p>I’m kind of confused and I has completely ruled out applying to MSU because I figured that if UMich and MSU both didn’t offer internationals anything I’d might as well go to UMich because it is rated higher in my program of choice.</p>
<p>But now, I’m considering MSU. Can anyone clarify this? And what kind of stats would be needed to nab a huge scholarship/merit aid (if this 'non need based aid is indeed referring to merit aid, etc.)?</p>
<p>EDIT: Also, on CB’s site it states that MSU’s EA deadline is October 12th, but I won’t have my Oct. SAT scores in time. Will MSU accept my Oct. SAT score and consider it for EA? I don’t want to send in my 2090 from May because I doubt that it would be good enough for merit aid (if MSU offers that). Please clarify because I don’t have much time to sort this out!</p>
<p>last question, I promise :3</p>
<p>I have decided I want to change my major already. (oops!) I’ve already submitted my app under engineering but would like to switch it to architecture. should I contact now or wait until after I’m accepted?</p>
<p>Wait until after you’re accepted. Then contact them. Sometimes it’s easier to switch at AOP, but if you’re super excited you can just email them :p</p>
<p>after you get accepted go here [Contact</a> Us | Michigan State University Office of Admissions](<a href=“http://admissions.msu.edu/emailadmis.asp]Contact”>http://admissions.msu.edu/emailadmis.asp)
put “change of major request” as the subject.</p>
<p>so the date for rolling admissions is November 1st, but does that include TRANSCRIPTS and letters of rec??? im an oos and i’m not getting my letter of rec till the end of october…but if i submit my application this week, is that fine??? thanks!</p>
<p>November 1st is the date by which applicants who want the best chances at merit aid/scholarships should submit their apps. You’ll be fine.</p>
<p>I’ve applied for the Spring 2011 semester. </p>
<p>I applied as a transfer student with ~55 transferable credits and a 3.6 GPA.</p>
<p>Now, I’m not really worried about getting in, but I’m curious as to when they will let me know. </p>
<p>I need to know if I got accepted (or rejected) soon. I’ve got to figure out my living situation!</p>