<p>Pot should be legal, I’ll give you that. Legalizing most other drugs would do nothing. Drug lords could always undercut the government in prices and therefore this whole underground culture would still exist because it is so ingrained and intertwined already with our culture. Sorry to continue the OT discussion.</p>
<p>Rats are worse than the people they’re snitching on if you ask me. Just mind your own business and do your own work. Are you really that cut-throat and insecure that you need to report others for cheating? Ever wonder why snitches always do it in complete secrecy and under the condition that their name is never known? It’s because snitching is one of the rattiest things you can do and will bring ridicule and shame upon you if you’re found out. I don’t cheat, but I have more respect for people who do than people who rat out their fellow classmates.</p>
<p>I don’t know how you can even find cheating better than ratting. If you do something wrong (like cheat) and get caught, it’s your fault, not the person who ratted you out. It’s a risk you take when you cheat. </p>
<p>And it depends on the degree of cheating. If someone was cheating a lot, like for the whole test, and someone ratted them out, I’d say props to that person. If it was someone who was just looking at their neighbor for an answer or two? Eh. Still their own fault, but it’s going through a lot to report someone for looking at an answer. Nothing would probably happen anyway.</p>
<p>Problem is you don’t really know the degree of cheating when you report someone, unless you’ve been sitting there looking at them the entire time. (This is obviously only in regards to exams, not papers and such.)</p>
<p>I can’t believe how many of you are OK with this. Call me overly-moral or whatever, but I go to a school with a strict honor code. You’re required to turn people in who you know are cheating. That’s not to say we’re recapturing the Inquisition in an attempt to find cheaters, but cheaters/the concept of cheating is scorned heavily on campus. If you put in the work, you should take the grade you earned. People who say “oh he’ll get his karma eventually” are acting like cowards. Why wait until someone does call him out for it? Can’t you be the one who reports him? I feel like an old lady saying this, but no wonder cheating is so rampant in our generation, if the majority of students on this academically "high caliber’ site are perfectly fine with cheating.</p>
<p>If I see someone cheating off of me, I won’t turn them in but I may have a little fun with them. Some people are concentrating so hard on cheating and on not getting caught that they don’t pay attention to what they’re copying down during a test. :)</p>
<p>I agree with the above. There’s nothing more unpleasant than realizing the kid you just copied your final exam off of for the past 3 hours thinks that “George Jefferson” was the frist Resident of America.</p>
<p>I don’t ever want to rat someone out, because you never know if they were actually cheating.:P</p>
<p>In 7th grade, I was taking a makeup test, and this guy who had a huge crush on me walked by and looked at the problem I had been working on and coughed the answer. </p>
<p>haha I actually felt really bad putting it, but it wasn’t like I actually cheated. -sigh- I am a Junior and I still feel bad. lol</p>
<p>I love when rats try to justify their ratting. Ratting is only done by the most self-serving people, I’ve found. Only those who care about getting hurt on a curve or can’t stand the thought of someone putting in less effort and getting a higher grade than themselves really care about cheating. I just mind my own business and do my own work. I don’t let what others are doing get to me. It’s a sign of insecurity that you can care so much about cheating that you actually go through the process of ratting someone out. No matter how much you justify it with a school’s “honor code” or what have you, the motivation is always a self-serving one. And I bet you take a perverse pleasure in ratting someone out when you do it.</p>
<p>Just remember that you don’t know the extent of the cheating and you could have caused your fellow classmate to get expelled from school for looking at an answer off of someone else’s paper. The punishment hardly seems to fit the crime if you ask me. Hopefully karma exists for rats so they get what’s there’s eventually.</p>
<p>That being said, if somebody is plagiarizing passages in an essay or entirely copying someone’s test, then they need to learn their lesson. But I can’t believe some people are talking about ratting on someone who gleaned an answer off a test.</p>
<p>People like you created the bystander effect, honestly… Not that murder/rape and cheating are comparable, of course.
I love hearing cheaters try to justify cheating. It’s much more pathetic.
They sort of have a right to be angry…
Risk is nothing without consequences. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time and all that bull*<strong><em>. People can cheat all they want and I probably wouldn’t report them, but they can’t say *</em></strong> if (God forbid!) they ever have to actually face the consequences.</p>
<p>I’m not a cheater so your post doesn’t apply to me. I’m also not a snitch and I never will be. The two activities are more similar in nature than you might expect. Both are self-serving and looked down on by society. One difference is that cheating is self-serving and only affects the cheater, while ratting is akin to getting on your knees for the system. Schools establish an “honor code” (such an ironic name) as a means of social control. It’s nothing more and those who ardently rat out anybody who transgress it are just slaves to it. I’d rather not let the school I’m paying $50,000 a year to attend wield such immense control over me, but I guess that’s just me.</p>
<p>I don’t cheat, not because it’s against the school’s policy, but because I disagree with it and it’s dishonest. Even if the penalties were less extreme, I would still not cheat. That doesn’t mean I have to be a self-righteous do gooder who rats on others. I just don’t let it bother me.</p>
<p>They do have a right to be angry. I get ****ed off when people cheat (but it depends on the degree of cheating). But never do people turn in others for cheating. Even at a military academy (my friend is at west point), people rarely turn in people for cheating even with the “honor code” they have installed there. Why? Ratting someone out is basically the same as cheating. They’re both looked down upon by people. If it bugs you so much you could perhaps suggest to the teacher to be more strict with test security. But bringing someone specifically out into the spotlight is just lame.</p>
<p>Well, I guess we’ll have to agree that turning someone in for cheating is rarely practical considering how hard it is to prove. But I really don’t buy this “ratting is the same as cheating” thing. Maybe by your playground logic that makes sense, but self-preservation isn’t always a bad thing (in small doses and without the god complex). Come to think of it, this unspoken rule not to rat on people sounds like an “honor code” in itself.</p>
<p>Like others said, I think the best thing to do is to kindly say to the professor, “I saw some cheating, but I wouldn’t like to name any names – just increase the monitoring for next time.”</p>
<p>Or don’t say anything at all, but say something to the cheater. Maybe offer some help or invite them to study with you. (Kind of like rehabilitation.)</p>
<p>I’ve seen people do it but I’ve never turned them in or said anything. Personally, if it doesn’t affect me and I don’t really care, because in the end they end up cheating themselves by not learning what they are supposed to learn.</p>