Having Trouble Narrowing My App List

<p>I have been searching colleges and trying to come up with a list. However, this is proving harder than I expected. Here is my list:</p>

<p>Amherst
Bowdoin
Midd
Vassar
Tufts
Vandy
UNC Chapel Hill
W&M
Dartmouth
Swarthmore (maybe)</p>

<p>Are there any schools I should try to cut off my list? I'm having trouble deciding because I don't know much about them other than from their websites. I have no been able to visit any schools other than UNC. Any insight would be much appreciated! </p>

<p>P.S I can get most of my application fees waived and I plan on being able to qualify for a lot of financial aid, so price is not an issue at the moment (although financial aid will be a huge deciding factor later on)</p>

<p>What is it you like about Vassar? It seems to be the major outlier on your list.</p>

<p>What are you interested in studying? What sort of environment and social scene are you looking for (Tufts is the most urban, some have pretty big Greek scenes, etc)?</p>

<p>It seems like Tufts, UNC, Wm&M, and Dartmouth are outliers. But then, you liked UNC when you visited? Because UNC is VERY different from Swarthmore/Amherst?</p>

<p>Have you thought about the size of school you want? Your list seems to range from 1500-6000, which isn't a huge difference, but a difference nonetheless. Swarthmore and Williams were on my list until I visited, but then I learned that small schools weren't for me.</p>

<p>Also, have you thought much more about location? The schools are all eastern, but while most are in New England there are a few outliers. You might think North Carolina is similar to NE, but it's not.</p>

<p>Then again, if you get fee waivers and FA is going to be a big deal, I think more is better... you never know what FA packages you'll get from where.</p>

<p>First of all, I'm not really sure why Vassar is "the major outlier" on your list. I would say it fits in very nicely with Swarthmore, Amherst, Bowdoin, and Middlebury as another top LAC, but that's just me. I would also argue that it has a lot of similarities with Swarthmore (and some with Tufts) in terms of its campus feel and student body. That being said, here's what I'd say about your list.</p>

<p>My first reaction to your list is that you have a lot of reaches and no real likely or safety (unless you have very impressive stats and live in either Virginia or North Carolina). All of the schools are selective to the extent that even if you've got a fantastic resume, you can't guarantee you'll get in. The one exception to this is, as I mentioned, if you're a solid applicant from Virginia or North Carolina because William & Mary and UNC-Chapel Hill are public universities. If this is not the case; however, I would recommend you consider adding a "likely" or "safety" school to this list. If you need some suggestions, post your stats (GPA, rank, SATs/ACTs, important ECs) and the characteristics you'd like your school to have (location, atmosphere, majors of interest, important ECs you want to have) and I'm sure someone will get back to you with ideas.</p>

<p>One thing you should think about in terms of your list is what sort of environment you'd like to go to school in. If a quirky, "liberal" environment appeals, I would say that Vassar and Swarthmore are your best bets. If, however, you want more of a "moderate," slightly preppy environment, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Dartmouth are better options. I would say that Tufts could fit into either the "liberal" or the "moderate" category. Lastly, if you're interested in schools that are "moderate gearing on conservative," I would recommend Vanderbilt and William & Mary. UNC-Chapel Hill is so large that it could fit for all three of these categories; however, I would say that it would be better for someone interested in a "moderate" or a "moderate to conservative" environment than a "liberal" one. </p>

<p>Another characteristic you should consider in your college search is the size of the environment you'd like to be in. Williams, Vassar, Amherst, Middlebury, and Bowdoin all have less than 3,000 students and little to no graduate program. They'll be more intimate environments in which you'll probably be able to recognize most of the individuals you go to school with. For some people, this is great, and for others, it feels too much like high school (particularly for those who went to and enjoyed going to large public schools). Meanwhile, Vanderbilt, Dartmouth, Tufts, and William & Mary are all schools with an undergraduate program of at least 4,000 and a graduate student body of at least 1,000. They'll offer you bigger environments in which you'll have more things to try but, at the same time, more competition for resources, research opportunities, leadership positions, play parts, instrumental chairs, and so on. Lastly, UNC-Chapel Hill is a large university with a large undergraduate body and a large graduate school population. For some, getting lost in the crowd appeals, and for others it's terrifying... what you need to do is determine which one fits your social and academic style best.</p>

<p>Consider location as another way of cutting things down. Your schools can be grouped into two halves: "cold weather schools" (Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Vassar, Tufts, Dartmouth, Swarthmore) and "warm weather schools" (Vanderbilt, UNC-Chapel Hill, William & Mary). It might seem silly to you now to eliminate a school based on its climate; however, it's actually a big thing to keep in mind. I've seen more than one thread in the "transfer student" section on College Confidential written by a student who didn't think about the weather until they got to the school and realized that it made the situation unbearable.</p>

<p>Lastly, I would recommend you think about the surrounding environments of the schools and how important having a city or other off-campus social scene available to you. If the idea of living in a city appeals, Vanderbilt University is the best option out of the schools you've listed. If you want a school right near a city (less than 30 minutes away) but in the suburbs, try Tufts, UNC-Chapel Hill, and Swarthmore. Similarly, if you want a school with city access that would be available on weekends but not "all the time" Vassar and William & Mary are good options. Interested in a more remote school, but don't want a social life limited to just your own school? Try Amherst... it belongs to a five college consortium, so you'd be able to easily attend events at other schools such as UMass-Amherst. Lastly, if you want a rural environment, Middlebury, Bowdoin, and Dartmouth fit the description.</p>

<p>First off, I wanted to thank everyone for their input - you have all been so helpful!</p>

<p>Here is some extra info you all have asked about:</p>

<p>Yes, these schools are a lot of reach school, which is why I am open to any ideas about other schools. My academic record is strong, but I am also hoping to get into schools that prefer well-rounded and strong-charactered students. </p>

<p>I live in Tampa, FL - so I do not have in-state advantages in any of these schools. I have already applied to the University of Florida and Florida State, so right now I am only working on out-of-state schools.</p>

<p>I want to study psychology and go on to med school to become a child psychiatrist, so a strong psych dept is a plus. I am open to any good psych schools other than the ones on my list - I am still looking for schools.</p>

<p>I go to an IB program here in Tampa, so my GPA is pretty high (3.8 UW and 5.6 W) I have scored 5s on the 3 APs I have taken so far, and I will be taking another 3 this year. I do not like the constant competitive atmosphere at my school and am looking for a school where students help rather than compete with each other. A little competition is always a good thing, but I do not want it to be overwhelming. </p>

<p>I like my small classes and knowing all the students around me, which is why I am leaning towards a smaller school. I do not want to end up at a school with 50000 students (like UF). I also love being close to my teachers and thus would prefer a school where professors get high marks.</p>

<p>I play soccer and will hopefully be captain this year. I have spent 2 summers volunteering a moffitt cancer center. I spent a semester last year tutoring children from my area at a local family resource center. The EC I am most dedicated to is a Children's Grief Center, where I recently completed 30 hrs of training to become a counselor. I attended the Center as a child, and I incorporate overcoming adversity in a lot of my essays.</p>

<p>Like I said, I live in FL, but cold weather does not bother me. As a matter of fact, I love cold weather, and I do not want to stay in hot and humid FL.</p>

<p>I visited UNC Chapel Hill and loved the park-like feel to it. It seemed to me that the school was relaxed, which is what I am looking for.</p>

<p>I am looking for a school where diversity is welcomed with open arms. I am the VP of the multi-cultural/religious tolerance club at my school and have been since a friend of mine started it our soph year. I attended a week long camp in Washington, D.C that was founded by the Interfaith Alliance. I was one of 40 students chosen from around the U.S and I absolutely loved meeting other high schoolers of different faiths. Tolerance is very important to me and I could not attend a close-minded school. I am also one of the founders of the Tampa Chapter Interfaith Youth Alliance, only the 2nd chapter in the U.S (the first being in Fresno, CA and founded by students who attended the same camp).</p>

<p>Let me know if you have any other questions, and thank you so much!</p>

<p>Also, I do not want to go to schools inside cities. I prefer the rural environment and am an avid outdoors girl. </p>

<p>Like I said, I know these schools are reach schools and I do not expect to get in to many - or even any - of them. I am looking for schools that seek out students based on character as well as academics. I have overcome a lot in my life and am hoping that my dedication and maturity will be apparent to the colleges. Then again, I do not even know if such qualities will affect my chances of getting in. Any thoughts?</p>

<p>One thing that made me add/take off schools from my list was: do I want to go to a school bigger or smaller than my high school (which has a little over 2000 kids). Most of your schools are really small and some are really big.</p>

<p>I live in suburbia (a little over an hour from the closest city) and I thought: do I want to commute an hour to the city, stay away from the city, or be in the city? That got my list of 16 schools down to 9. A lot of your schools are really rural, but would you be okay with having to commute 1+ hrs to the city if you needed something your college town can't offer?</p>

<p>well my HS has about 2000 kids, but the IB program only has about 600. I like the smaller schools and knowing the people who walk by me every day. I do not want to be lost in a crowd.</p>

<p>and no, i do not mind commuting as long as trasportation is provided to the major cities neaby.</p>

<p>also, i do not know if i mentioned this, but im in the top 2% in my county - 11000 kids - my school does not do its own ranking.</p>