<p>Well, in that case, I find “fruit” guys adorable (although, I do prefer not to use the word “fruit” to describe them) :D</p>
<p>I don’t know how many stuffed animals Baelor does or doesn’t have, but what does being “gay” or a “fruit” have to do with being whiny and a snitch?</p>
<p>“It’s college” isn’t a valid excuse to why his roommate’s behavior is acceptable. Not everyone came to college to sit in their room, play XBox, and smoke a bowl a day. The OP doesn’t have to accept anything. </p>
<p>It’s a shame he got caught up in this dilemma, but the only way I can see things getting better if he just request for a change in room or dorm. Awkwardness will only ensue if the other roommates are told what they can or can not do. And with three guys vs one? The OP will be even more uncomfortable.</p>
<h2>The OP would be solving his own problems regardless of how he approaches the issue ~ Baelor</h2>
<p>No according to you and your cabbage patch dolls, you’d like to have him run down the hall, pull the RA into his room and say, “look, look…they are drinking beer!”</p>
<p>If the roommate tells him to clean up vomit, the OP should tell him to go to hell. If he continues to try and make him do stuff like that - knock him on his ass.</p>
<p>The very last thing I would do is go run to my RA, I mean seriously?</p>
<p>Next time the roommate tells him to clean up vomit, the OP should shove his face in it - I doubt it will happen again.</p>
<h2>“It’s college” isn’t a valid excuse to why his roommate’s behavior is acceptable. Not everyone came to college to sit in their room, play XBox, and smoke a bowl a day. The OP doesn’t have to accept anything. ~ Mushaboomblue</h2>
<p>I didn’t say he had to accept it, I said he needs to solve it on his own. Either set ground rules or move out.</p>
<p>A suggestion that I also made. But that may not be an option. My college, for example, requires underclassmen to live on-campus. Suppose that a transfer request is denied. What should the OP do then?</p>
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<p>It’s not that simple. If they enjoyed having many people over all the time and that was all, I would agree with you. But they have no basis on which to make a case – they are engaging in illegal behavior in the room, period. The OP need not tolerate that.</p>
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<p>I’m also not gay, but that’s another discussion.</p>
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<p>I suggest you do that to your boss when he asks you to do something you don’t like. Let me know how it goes.</p>
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<p>Yes, seriously. Because we’re not all mentally disabled, like you apparently.</p>
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<p>He would be, regardless of what he does – as I said before.</p>
<p>@ BIGeastBEAST: I misunderstood then (in regards to the statement of “accepting” the roommate’s behavior). I sincerely apologize.</p>
<p>I do agree with you that he shouldn’t complain to the RA because that will make matters worse. I don’t think ground rules will be able to set, unfortunately. Maybe if the odds were in his favor or he had only one roommate, but I think the only choice the OP has is to move out.</p>
<h2>I suggest you do that to your boss when he asks you to do something you don’t like. Let me know how it goes. ~ Baelor</h2>
<p>If my boss ever vomits on my couch and tells me to clean it up, I assure you that I will do just that.</p>
<p>Obviously, there is a major difference between those examples, so let’s keep things within topic. There is a major difference between a boss giving me an assignment I don’t like, and a drunk person puking on my couch and trying to force me to clean it.</p>
<p>I mean it. If the roommates try to bully the OP, the OP needs to stick up for himself. If that means knocking the roommate on his ass, so be it.</p>
<p>I mean, how do you handle bullies? Bloody their nose a bit, STAND UP FOR YOUSELF, don’t expect other people (like a RA) to stand up for you.</p>
<p>I know two room mates still dealing with charges for possession in their dorm room many months ago. It was apparently the RA’s call, and she apparently chose to involve the police. I don’t think either of them was “asked back” this semester.</p>
<h2>they are engaging in illegal behavior in the room, period. ~ Baelor</h2>
<p>Get real. I work in law enforcement and I’m even rolling my eyes on this statement.</p>
<p>More than likely you engage in illegal activity with your stuffed animals on a nightly basis, and I wouldn’t recommend your roommate getting your RA involved either.</p>
<p>BIGeastBEAST: If you had cared to read my post rather than picking and choosing snippets to suit your ranting purpose, you would have seen that my main (and highly recommended suggestion) was to first talk with the roommates. Then, only if that method did not work, to include the specific reason for the room change request. Preferably, I would vote going to the RA to resolve things more quickly. But I guess there are just some people afraid of hurting the feelings of others and damaging their image ;)</p>
<p>I’m sorry you do not believe that the OP is at risk for being caught up in this mess and is liable to be held responsible as a willing party if it continues. I speak from first hand knowledge (relatives and friends who have attended/are attending CSUs and UCs) that yes, you will be punished. This is how the CSUs and UCs work. I’m sorry this bothers you.</p>
<p>There is, of course, the chance he will not be caught if he gets out right now or has an alibi that would place him away from the dorm completely between now and when he can request a roommate transfer. The fact is, though, that the longer he stays there with such activity, the higher his risk of being associated with the whole mess.</p>
<p>I was more specifically referring to your use of violence to accomplish what you refuse to accomplish by more efficient, and less illegal, means. </p>
<p>So, tell me, would violence be an appropriate reaction against your boss? Or a co-worker? Why, then, a roommate? That behavior is illegal, incidentally, just like that of the OP’s roommates. Perhaps another country with barbaric customs would be more to your liking.</p>
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<p>Words. And then leveraging authority. </p>
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<p>1) Drinking underage in a state that forbids it in all situations
2) Smoking non-medicinal marijuana</p>
<p>I fear for America if people like you are supposed to be protecting it.</p>
<h2>So, tell me, would violence be an appropriate reaction against your boss? Or a co-worker? Why, then, a roommate? That behavior is illegal, incidentally, just like that of the OP’s roommates. Perhaps another country with barbaric customs would be more to your liking. ~ Baelor</h2>
<p>I don’t care who it is (other than my wife, I’m scared of her), if a dude pukes on my couch and then gets in my face telling me to clean it up, you better believe that person will be either A) Eating some carpet, or B) Getting his ass thrown out the door.</p>
<p>That my lil fluffy friend is the most efficient means of solving this sort of problem. It sounds like the OP’s roommate is a bully. Being a tattle tell just makes the bully worse. You stop a bully by giving him a taste of his own medicine.</p>
<p>If you think that is barbaric, so be it - but guess what? People don’t try to bully me or make me clean up their puke either.</p>
<p>And guess what? LEO’s have better things to do than respond to calls about 3 college students playing beer pong or smoking a joint in their bathroom - so get real.</p>
<p>So don’t waste their time about that petty stuff, especially not when a person could just handle it on their own. I mentioned that the OP should put his foot down about weed, and find a compromise about beer - pretty reasonable.</p>
<p>Eating carpet is a reference to lesbian oral sex. I would suggest another term, although I imagine that your posts – and your career in law enforcement – now make much more sense. I finally get it.</p>
<p>I still don’t understand why you aren’t addressing the issue of violence being illegal. You are in law enforcement. Is assault illegal, or is it not?</p>
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<p>And I’ve never used violence with bullies, only words and authority, and the same outcomes apply to me. So, pardon me if I don’t immediately accept your advocacy of animalistic, not to mention illegal, responses.</p>
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<p>I don’t need to – they are illegal, period. It doesn’t matter whether law enforcement would respond. The university policy, and the law, are on the OP’s side. I’m not interested in whether the cops would come. I’m interested in who has any basis for making his case. The answer is irrefutably the OP.</p>
<p>^ If a drunk person puked on your couch, then tried to make you clean it up, you’d have every justifcation to toss him out the door. </p>
<p>Assault is illegal, but what I’m describing is far from assault.</p>
<p>Besides, do you really think some dude who has weed on him, is drinking underage and just got his ass handed to him in front of his friends would call the police?</p>
<p>Get real. </p>
<p>And I’ve never used violence with bullies, only words and authority ~ Baelor</p>
<p>Right, you asked them to stop bullying you, and when they didn’t you ran to a parent, teacher, RA to solve your problems. That’s is what we call being a wimp.</p>
<h2>I still don’t understand why you aren’t addressing the issue of violence being illegal. You are in law enforcement. Is assault illegal, or is it not? ~ Baelor</h2>
<p>A person who hits another dude over the head with a beer bottle because he accidently bumped into him = assault.</p>
<p>A kid who roughs up some drunk/stone guy who is puking on his couch and then trying to make him clean it up = justice.</p>
<p>Soooo … redmangoose … any update to what’s going on with you and your roommates? Have you considered going to housing and requesting a room switch? Or are things okay now?</p>
<p>Is it illegal, or is it not illegal? That is the only matter I consider relevant, and I see no reason to consider alternative aspects unless their relevance is demonstrated.</p>
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<p>“We?” Who is “we?” Incompetent law enforcement officials? Brutes? Who? I’m sorry that I can deal with my problems effectively and don’t need to post on a website for college students when I’m twenty-eight years old. Go get some psych help or something.</p>