<p>I'm entering soph year at penn state this fall and will be applying as transfer to NYU/CMU and a few publics for '08, so I was wondering if these schools give aid to international students... I went to HS and live in ny, but decided to go to psu because it was the best ranked school I had to choose from. Back in HS, I applied only to universities with a reasonable tuition, so that basically left all privates schools out. However, the price of penn state as it is right now is too high and I could not get any aid or loan from the school. </p>
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<li><p>Does anyone know if NYU/CMU, or privates in general, are more likely to give aid/scholarships in this case? I have heard of instances where liberal arts colleges or small, private instutitions award full scholarship to promote diversity/etc, but how generous are NYU and other privates like CMU, lehigh when it comes to international students?</p></li>
<li><p>From experience, state schools can't give any consideration, so I was investigating some options before heading to a SUNY knowing that I could get into a "better" school. But I also don't want apply as a transfer this spring to NYU/CMU/UW/U of illinois only to find out that I would have to pay roughly the same tuition (~30K), in which case I would have to resort to a SUNY anyway.</p></li>
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<p>Hmm... Most schools are very stingy with financial aid for internationals. I'm not sure, but I'd say that for transfer students it's even more difficult to get financial aid. A few colleges I looked at explicitely stated that international transfer students can't apply for financial aid.</p>
<p>I know that I didn't answer your question, I'm just saying that you shouldn't make assumptions about your chances for financial aid based on freshmen admission data. Check with all colleges you're applying to if they give out financial aid for internationals.</p>
<p>Rister, where should I go for data about aid awarded to internationals? I went to collegeboard for the schools above and none had reported the amount of aid provided to internationals--does that mean that nothing was given?</p>
<p>Such data is usually pretty hard to find. But, as I said, the situation is different for you anyways since you apply as a transfer student. </p>
<p>You could try to PM <a href="mailto:b@rium">b@rium</a>. She has a huge (some say endless) knowledge about international admission and financial aid.</p>
<p>I think NYU stipulates "very limited" fin. aid for internationals.</p>
<p>that be said, I was an NYU student, American, with a disabled father on social security and NYU refused to give us ONE DIME of financial aid. not even work study.</p>
<p>they are very stingy. i am not longer there.</p>
<p>How much aid (roughly) would you say int'l students receive from privates like NYU/CMU? I am just trying to get an idea as to what the institutions provide before spending time applying to these schools only to find out that I am unable to cope with the costs...</p>
<p>Thank you for the link; if I end up having to borrow +30k yearly for any of those school, i don't think it is worth it given my financial circumstances, so I am not planning to rely on loans at the moment.</p>
<p>you are not looking at the correct schools if you're aiming for aid
1. CMU does not offer aid to int'l
2. NYU is not known for being generous. furthermore i would imagine it will be wildly expensive even with aid</p>
<p>NYU offers almost exclusively loans to international students. The limit is $40,000 per year, but the university strongly insists on internationals not taking up more than $20,000. The interest rates are somewhere around 10% per year, so you will end up paying up to about $200,000 in interest alone (if you pay off the entire loan at the end of 12-year limit). That being said, I have heard of really, really well-qualified internationals getting a measly couple of thousand dollars in scholarship.</p>
<p>Which LAcs have good engineering/computer science programs? Most I have looked at (middlebury/colgate/etc) only have 3-2 (5 years) programs with schools like columbia and are very selective.</p>
<p>frasifrasi : Yes LACs have pretty good Computer science program. Computer science and Computer Engg. are different. Most CS programs are regular 4 yr ones.</p>
<p>frasifrasi, check out lafayette college in PA, it has a good engineering program, and is strong in the sciences. it also has a large population of international students on (full) financial aid.</p>
<p>Thank you for the suggestions! As of now, I am a fresh with 3.6 GPa in college, 1340 SATs (very high writing section), and 30 act. I am in a few clubs and volunteer occasionally.</p>
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<li>Based on this, can anyone suggest a few other colleges I might want to check out--I am virtually clueless when it comes to LACs. Are their engineering departments as strong as say, from a state school like U of illinous or UW? Like I said the ones I have researched only offer 3-2 coop programs with larges universities and are really selective.</li>
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