help! I can't decide between UF and FSU!

<p>please help!</p>

<p>What do you want to major in? Which location do you prefer? Which location will allow for internships in your area of study? What qualities of a campus do you want? Answer some questions like these and see which one matches up better!</p>

<p>Nice choices – congratulations! Conventional wisdom is that UF excels in engineering, agriculture and math and that FSU rules in certain social sciences, international studies and political science. Other fields, such as physics may be a draw. I am sure that the schools have plusses and minuses in all majors.</p>

<p>Both schools are well respected and you really won’t make a bad choice. Visit the campuses and get a feel for how much you like them. My daughter was put off by the cultish gator-nation aspect of UF and ruled it out after one visit (for sake of disclosure, she found out on Friday that she was not admitted to UF, but really didn’t care). On the other hand, she found FSU to be friendly with just enough school spirit to get excited about the games without the over the top mania of UF. Other people may have the exact opposite perception.</p>

<p>My son is a freshman at FSU and also likes it (except for the parking situation, which really sucks). Tallahassee is a very friendly town. For example, he blew a tire a while back on the way home from his campus visit and had three offers for help within a few minutes – unlikely to happen in Orlando (where we are from). </p>

<p>Again, good choices – cogratulations.</p>

<p>torioreo: for now, pre-med or education…both of which are seemingly okay at either institution</p>

<p>LTG: I was at FSU this past weekend and I really liked it. I know what your daughter means with the whole cult nature of UF. I also thing FSU has a much nicer campus, and Tallahassee is at least a city that isn’t wholly centered on FSU and FAMU’s presences. But UF is UF…it’s an opportunity.</p>

<p>If you want to do pre-med, I think your chances for interning might be greater at FSU…just because it is IN the capital of the state. I could be wrong, but I think that there is a good chance that you would have a better chance to find and internship there.</p>

<p>honestly, i think internships are about the same at either school. UF has Shands on campus, but they also work with the one in Jacksonville. FSU has the Tallahassee area hospitals, and I’ve seen FSU interns at my doctor’s office at Mayo Clinic Jax.</p>

<p>Hey I just posted the same dilemma on the UF site. I was just accepted to UF, thought I was for sure going to FSU Honors… I want to be a High School Latin teacher. Which one has the better Classics program for education? I am so confused and UF has given us a March 1 deadline for Housing preferences. </p>

<p>I would appreciate any advice or wisdom on this matter.</p>

<p>If I do not wind up teaching Latin I will be taking the Math track for secondary education.</p>

<p>thank you.</p>

<p>haha collegeorbust10. i just got my email from UF housing too.</p>

<p>i know some people in the classics program at FSU, but know nothing about it, nor of any program as such at UF.</p>

<p>I decided, though. The only thing that was calling me to UF was it’s name. FSU has much more to offer for me and I liked it a lot more. Good luck!</p>

<p>Go Noles!</p>

<p>(PS: to all who responded, thanks for your help)</p>

<p>FSU Honors over UF regular any day. The advantages of the Florida State Honors Program more than compensate for any perceived advantage UF has currently over FSU.</p>

<p>For example, FSU Honors offers:</p>

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<li> Priority registration for classes</li>
<li> Small classes with top faculty</li>
<li> Outstanding opportunities and support for individual research as an undergraduate</li>
<li> Opportunity for university scholarships, but you MUST react early and quickly</li>
<li> [Excellent</a> academics across a broad area of subjects](<a href=“http://www.fsu.edu/highlights/rankings.html]Excellent”>Rankings | Florida State University). For some subjects like engineering I’d say go UF but for virtually all else FSU is as good or better.</li>
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<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>im doing honors by petition, and i think i have a pretty good shot:</p>

<p>i have a 3.7 GPA (they ask for a 3.7)
2010 SAT (they ask for an 1850)/30 ACT (they ask for 28)
i’m in the top 25% but not the top 10%
but they ask for 2 out of the 3 requirements though.</p>

<p>what do you mean about the scholarships? reacting quick and early?</p>

<p>FSU offers a number of scholarships for incoming freshmen. Some are advertised, some are not - be sure to ask Admissions or Honors if you qualify for any.</p>

<p>See: [url=<a href=“http://www.fsu.edu/students/prospective/undergraduate/finances/scholarships.html]Scholarships[/url”>http://www.fsu.edu/students/prospective/undergraduate/finances/scholarships.html]Scholarships[/url</a>]</p>

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<p>Florida has more regional cachet, but such things are meaningless out of state.</p>

<p>Go where you feel the most comfortable.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that the benefits of Honors only apply to a handful of classes in your lower division (ie first two years). When you start taking your core classes, you’re sitting in the same classes as the non-Honors students. Just make sure you weight that into your decision.</p>

<p>^ I’m pretty sure some of the upper-level courses have honors, and your “benefits” still apply after you’ve completed the requirements.</p>

<p>Dnerd, here is a list of all the honors courses offered this semester:</p>

<p><a href=“http://honors.fsu.edu/Gfx/spring2010courses.pdf[/url]”>http://honors.fsu.edu/Gfx/spring2010courses.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If you count 3 and 4000 level courses as upper division, then how many of those are upper division? I think I counted 10. Of those, how many would anyone take for any given major with ~40 courses (~120 credits)? To take it even a step further, how many of the courses on that list (I think I counted 43) would anyone take for a particular undergraduate curriculum?</p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong, Honors programs are great. I just wanted to make sure students understand that the availability of honors courses isn’t that big of a benefit, especially when you go to upper division.</p>

<p>The residual benefit of [Honors[/url</a>] (beyond initial classes) at FSU is that the priority registration lasts all 4 years. Honors housing can also last all 4 years, as do the university scholarships. It is more than just a few freshman classes, it is an introduction.</p>

<p>Additionally, unless you’re going to major in engineering or agriculture, FSU is as good or better than UF in terms of academics, faculty, facilities, campus, dorms, sports and intangibles. UF currently has a slight advantage in terms of admissions stats, but over history that has not amounted to much and changes over time between FSU and UF. For example, FSU’s freshman retention has increased to 91%, which places it with the top universities in the U.S. Once you get over 90% retention you are in fine company with your peers.</p>

<p>Honors at FSU is an entry into an entire undergraduate experience wherein a student has better access to faculty and research opportunities. Honors can lead to additional scholarships, fellowships, funded research, [url=<a href=“http://honorsinthemajor.fsu.edu/]Honors-in-the-Major[/url”>http://honorsinthemajor.fsu.edu/]Honors-in-the-Major[/url</a>], publishing, study abroad, the [url=<a href=“http://onf.fsu.edu/]Office”>http://onf.fsu.edu/]Office</a> of National Fellowships](<a href=“http://honors.fsu.edu/about.html]Honors[/url”>http://honors.fsu.edu/about.html) and more.</p>

<p>Can you do all these things with a regular admission? Sure. It is just harder and with each hurdle you must needlessly jump your goal stands that much farther off. Frequently success in academia is determined by who can best adapt and survive the onslaught of work. Why take a more difficult road, when a door or doors may be already open for you? Makes no sense to me.</p>

<p>I read this post today - written by an obviously bright student who was persuaded that US News ratings were everything. This is their story and while UF is not Emory the message is helpful.

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<p>Care to backup and quantify your assertion?</p>

<p>Feeling insecure?</p>

<p>Having trouble sugar coating it?</p>

<p>Extra calories are unnecessary and should be avoided.</p>

<p>However, you and I have had this discussion before and I suspect repeating it is perhaps less than productive. Suffice to say I find US News ratings, which I will from time to time argue from both sides, less than accurate and informative while you appear to find greater value in them. FSU and UF are sufficiently close in these and other ratings to be of little value in placing one above the other, due to the error and distortions we have discussed in the past.</p>

<p>I will agree that UF has some areas of historic strength (engineering and agriculture) that FSU has to (not clear on graduate engineering) a lesser degree, while FSU has similar strength in areas like political science, philosophy, social science and human science. So-called hard science areas like chemistry, physics, math are fungible between the two.</p>

<p>I think it is also important to note that FSU and UF also have the oldest chapters of [Phi</a> Beta Kappa](<a href=“http://www.pbk.org/infoview/PBK_InfoView.aspx?t=&id=11]Phi”>http://www.pbk.org/infoview/PBK_InfoView.aspx?t=&id=11) in Florida (haha - FSU has Alpha, while UF has Beta) which is a lasting (not to mention reviewed on a triennial basis) measure of the academic competency of the particular school.</p>