<p>So currently I am a high school senior and I am at an Ivy League University taking undergraduate classes (yes the ones with real college credits, not the skimpy summer programs) for the summer. Unfortunately, I did not expect two classes to be so much to handle, and now my grades are actually suffering.</p>
<p>So I have two questions:
1) Do you think taking these classes would show the admissions officers that I am ambitious and it will look good on my application? Or since the quality of grades themselves are bad, will I look like an ambitious failure?</p>
<p>2) Does anyone know if you take college credit classes (either summer or concurrent enrollment at a local community college) if it is required by law or something to submit your college transcript for the admissions process? </p>
<p>No, I meant, are you making a B or a C in the class? Bs are pretty solid for a high school student taking college classes IMO. I mean even a C might not kill you.</p>
<p>About #2, I know the Common Application asks you about any classes you took at an university. I think that if you don’t report those classes and your university finds out (which I imagine is quite possible) your admission could be in jeopardy.</p>
<p>Is it just that I have to tell them I took classes or do I need to report my specific transcript and letter grade? and do you think this will effect my chances at an Ivy negatively/positively/neutral b/c they think I can’t handle Ivy league material or will they think I’m just ambitious?</p>
<p>I believe there is a place in the college application where they will ask if you ever attended a college, including summer coursework, and if so, you need to submit your grade and transcript.</p>
<p>I took two courses at Yale going into my senior year of high school. While I reported the classes and grades (the Common App asks if you’ve taken college courses and wants the details on those, if I remember correctly), I don’t believe I actually sent in a transcript until I was enrolled in college (same with the APs).</p>
<p>No a B or C will not ruin your chances. These are real, true, college classes. They are just as hard in the summer as they would be during the school year. Lots of the people who do take them during the school year, who are real college students at that institution end up with a B or C or even D or F. The admissions officers know that. You are doing fine for someone who is still a high school student.</p>
<p>If you are applying to the ivies then receiving an A would show that you are capable and were determined enough to get that grade. Bs would not be in your favor as much as an A obviously, but it would show colleges you challenged yourself. If you get Cs then I wouldn’t put the grades on your application when you say you took college courses.</p>
<p>Other people are not giving you right information, last summer I took four summer classes at Princeton. I got threes As and one B. When visiting the admissions office I was told that I should still put the B but it may hurt my application. I was bewildered because it was organic chemistry, and by no means an easy class.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say so… having taken summer classes at two ivies and a state uni I would say they are generally far easier than the regular courses, partially because they are quite often filled with somewhat more relaxed (or behind) people. </p>
<p>What kind of classes are you taking? If it’s something really easy (e.g. intro bio, calc 3d, intro econ etc.) I would be cautious about applying to Ivies since you might have trouble keeping up. I’ve seen too many students who somehow make it into an Ivy but simply cannot perform at the same level as other people. Maybe there’s something wrong with the way you study?</p>
<p>dotori does not have the option to not include a course with a C in it in his/her college application. These summer classes, and the grades earned in them, are a permanent part of dotori’s academic history. For the rest of dotori’s natural life, every single time he/she applies for admission to a degree program at an accredited college or university in the US, or applies for a job that requires college transcripts, dotori will need to provide an official copy of this transcript. Period. </p>
<p>Over the years, I have taken credit coursework at seven (yes 7, the number between 6 and 8) different colleges and universities. It is such pain to get in touch with seven different record offices that the last time I needed copies, I ordered five sealed copies of each and I filed the spares here at home.</p>
<p>happymomof1: you’re right in that if he/she ever applies to med school, etc. these will have to be submitted. However undergrad admissions really doesn’t care nearly as much–I actually asked my admissions whether they wanted my transcripts and they just said it was up to me.</p>
<p>They must have misunderstood what you meant about those transcripts. At the very least they are obliged to insist that you provide them once you are enrolled in a degree program. Whether you get transfer credit for the coursework is a whole different story. When a college or university comes up for accreditation, random student files will be pulled by the review committee, and if one transcript is missing from one student’s file, there will be a huge accreditation-threatening crisis. This has very little to do with any individual student, but it has everything to do with the colleges/universities all playing nice with each other.</p>
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<li><p>That’s after enrollment… i.e. after admission, which is what OP’s worried about.</p></li>
<li><p>No they didn’t misunderstand, but my school has a policy where you’re only allowed to transfer 2 classes’ worth of credits during your entire undergrad. career, so I picked 2 that I actually wanted on my transcript. They don’t really care about what other classes you’ve taken just for fun since it can’t appear on the record at my university anyway.</p></li>
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<p>Can you even transfer a C? My university doesn’t take below B-</p>
your fault</p>