<p>I'm a D1 Ivy Rowing Recruit athlete who submitted his application SCEA.</p>
<p>Do Ivys still give out Likely Letters? If so, when? If I have not received one yet, does that mean I am not being chosen?</p>
<p>How did the conversation go with the coach before you submitted your ap? Did he say he would be putting you up for a LL?</p>
<p>He didn’t specifically mention a likely letter at any point. </p>
<p>Am I screwed.</p>
<p>Um…screwed is a strong word.
I’d call him and ask.</p>
<p>Monepo, Varska is right - you need to make a call. Usually the LL is discussed prior to submission of app and often sent before the ED deadline (although always after app is complete). In the context of athletic recruiting, this is done to give security to top recruits so they don’t lose their chance of ED admission elsewhere. If you and coach did not discuss, what made you think you were considered a recruit for this coach --as opposed to a kid he’d like to have as a walk-on but wasn’t going to fight for? How do your athletic and academic stats measure against their rowers and non-athletes? Call him but also prepare other apps since, without an LL, there are no guarantees even if he advocates for you. Good luck!!</p>
<p>Well he said he would recommend me, and that no one would receive a higher recommendation than me. Which to me is another way of saying others would receive the same recommendation. </p>
<p>I sent him an email, I guess we’ll see what he comes back with.</p>
<p>Also, I’m thinking about this again. A likely letter is usually given to give security to recruits. But if I am applying Single Choice Early Action, why would they need to give security when you can only apply to that school early?</p>
<p>^So that you can continue your recruiting efforts.</p>
<p>Until you have something - which for the Ivys is represented by a LL - you have nothing. You need to keep your options alive and pursued.</p>
<p>monepo, precisely because they ask you to apply ed, and forgo the advantage anywhere else, they offer the LL. That is why it can be sent beginning Oct. 1 --so if it does not arrive promptly, you may withdraw your app and try elsewhere before Nov. 1 cut-off or Nov. 15 for Nescac. It is quite odd that the coach did not offer LL’s to any recruits. Perhaps he meant you will have highest level of support for his non-LL receiving picks. I don’t doubt he’d love to have you make it but it is dubious you were a top pick for him. At this phase, a phone call would be warranted unless you do get a prompt response via email but the call allows for a real-time back-and-forth discussion. </p>
<p>Since this is your first choice school, I don’t know you’d want to change anything but keep in mind, other great schools do offer ED2.</p>
<p>That was a reply from the coach.</p>
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<p>It means you will have an answer on December 13th. I would keep my other irons in the fire because it is obviously not up to the coach but the admissions committee. Best of luck to you, but please be sure to have a plan b, c, d, e & f!</p>
<p>monepo,</p>
<p>I think the coach is being very honest and transparent with you. You need to wait until Dec 13 to find out like all the other SCEAs. You have some athletic support/recommendation which others don’t have. It is up to the AdComm at this point, and there is nothing you can do except sit & wait, and possibly think of contingency plans for other schools that recruited you.</p>
<p>His statement that cox have never received LL is a strong indicator of the situation. I would have thought this process would have been discussed (in detail) earlier with the coach. You only have a few weeks to go. Good luck.</p>
<p>Continue your recruiting efforts nonstop. Hope for a successful conclusion, but prepare for an unsuccessful result. If there were other schools recruiting you, and you could be interested in the other schools, call the coach and renew your interest. ASAP.</p>
<p>I do not understand the statement that the bar is set higher for likely letters.</p>
<p>your chances are probably same as anyone else with your academic stats plus a strong and desirable ec. in other words, hope for best but plan for everything else. let us know how it works out.</p>
<p>hmm k. Yes, I do appreciate the coach’s honesty - I would much rather now the truth than some sugarcoated lie. I guess I’ll just wait and see! Thank you all. I’m definitely keeping this school out of my head unless I am accepted. No point worrying about nothing!</p>
<p><strong>BTW: I AM A COX</strong></p>
<p>The reply from the coach got deleted. Basically, he gave a strong recommendation and gave it to admissions. He says I have no reason to get my decision early, which is true. He also said recruits almost never get Likely Letters, coxswains have never gotten LLs. One thing I was confused about was when he said “Also, the bar is set higher for Likely Letters.” O.o</p>
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<p>I take that to mean the athletic bar, not the academic bar. He probably means he can pull out a LL to lock in the recruit that everyone else is after.</p>
<p>(Not to say that you’re not a great cox, of course)</p>
<p>Ah gotcha.</p>
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<p>Those two statements together make sense.</p>
<p>If we equate Ivy/LL with Non-Ivy/Div I athletic scholarships, from the coaches I’ve talked to and the interviews I’ve read, a coach doing something out of the ordinary for a coxswain seems to be a dicey proposition.</p>
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<p>This, in a nutshell, always seems to be the best advice.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Sorry guys, I’m about to give you a bit of information overload.</p>
<p>If I had been in email contact with the coach for around nine months now, developed quite a good relationship, corresponding 1-3 times a week, visited the coach, had a positive chat, been given the email of my particular sport’s representative in the admissions office to submit supplementary materials to (however I only ever get a simple sentence, if anything, from my emails to him), been told precisely what scores in the SAT and SAT II to achieve (have achieved them), yet would be one of the slower recruits, would I be in a position to receive any support from the coach in admissions?</p>