Help me decide please

<p>hi dear parents</p>

<p>i'm a gr 11 student in Ontario, Canada,
I came to this country from asia 2 years ago, started HS here and i am now considering applying to a university in US</p>

<p>however, i believe that, if i take another year, my chance will be way stronger</p>

<p>in Ontario, you can choose to take a 5th year of HS, therefore, it's not a gap year, its entirely optional and my GCs sometime encourage students to do so</p>

<p>any parents from Ontario? Can you please tell me if staying an extra year will HURT my chances of getting into US unis? (the top ones with fin aid)</p>

<p>do they look at an extra year negatively? if you stay in HS dat year instead of volunteering around the world or w/e? i feel that i need that extra year in many aspects =)</p>

<p>any input please =)</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>same ask 10</p>

<p>No it won't hurt you--and I think you will find that your writing and reading skills and SAT CR scores will go up if you give yourself another year of English education.</p>

<p>It's an incredible feat to study at university in another language! Good for you.</p>

<p>Thank you cheers!</p>

<p>are you a parent from Ontario?</p>

<p>also, i've heard that the 5th year isn't optional anymore</p>

<p>but you can still take it if you want?</p>

<p>i'll check out with my GC, but does anyone here know anything about this year?</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>any more inputs plz?</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>I think you'd be SO wise to stay in place the extra year. You will gain academically, in social confidence, and language skills.</p>

<p>To indicate a growing trend, I heard that when Harvard accepts students, they give them 3 check-offs to decide on their offer: accept, decline, or accept-but-will-take-a-"gap year." To me, this indicates that Harvard admires and appreciates the "one-year-older" student. Not every school is Harvard, but they are leaders in educational culture here, often leading the way. So it's noteworthy. </p>

<p>Here some colleges permit a gap year and say so, on their websites. Others say no, by saying "If you want a gap year, we will not hold your place but require you to reapply" (which means, of course, they are disallowing it). </p>

<p>But others decide on a "case-by-case" basis if they think the gap year is worthwhile. They don't want to see kids being bums on the beach for a year and saying, "Now I am more mature." Often I've heard that those who judge proposals on a case-by-case ask to see some academic component in the Gap year, and not just travel. The idea is: they want you to keep your academic habits in place, and not forget some of the maths, languages and so on. Not to become "rusty" with skills, in other words.</p>

<p>For all these reasons, I think you can feel confident that if you "feel you need" that extra year in Canada, you are choosing wisely. Your GC is also supportive. </p>

<p>I taught ESL in Ontario many years ago. You will be amazed at how much better you will write for your college applications with that extra year of education! It might really help you get accepted to more places.</p>

<p>I admire your work so far. Trust your heart and enjoy learning in Ontario the extra year. All the colleges here will wait.</p>

<p>thank you!</p>

<p>also I'm not planning to apply before by extra year of high school
so i'll take 5 years of hs and apply at the beginning of the 5th year</p>

<p>is that allowed or do i have to apply at the beginning of my 4th year (which is the norm)</p>

<p>thank you!</p>

<p>I am GUESSING that you would apply in the autumn of your 5th year. The colleges normally do not want to hear from you until 9 - 11 months before you want to join their next class. Otherwise, you get into that "gap year permission" stuff, which isn't what you want. UNLESS you'd like to be like others in your 4th year class, to apply but then get accepted and then defer for a year. Seems too complicated to me!
Is it a need you have to reassure yourself at the same time as the other students, or can you trust and wait the extra year before knowing where you'll go? I think you'll have much better chances of acceptance if you wait until the 5th year, if you can do it that way. </p>

<p>Anyway, this is a good question to ask your GC, unless you want to contact the universities yourself now, by email to admissions departments. Ask several of them to be sure. Or if you have you already favor one or two, call those and ask. It won't be held in your favor or against you, if you ask. They handle all of these questions, all day long, by email and phone. Look on the websites, of course. If you need names of schools, go online to Petersons.com </p>

<p>Most of the universities and colleges, especially in the Northern United States,
have experience handling Canadian applicants. So this is not a new or difficult question for them to answer.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>And you know, you can just travel to visit and take a walking tour of an American campus, long before you are ready to apply, just to see what it is like here. Try to come when school is in session, not during vacations when the schools here are empty. From Ontario, you could come and see a big variety of schools in northern New York State, Vermont, or Michigan, depending on where in Ontario you live. </p>

<p>It does cost more than the Canadian universities. Aren't Canadian schools much less expensive? Still, people come here from Canada. If finances are an obstacle, remember to look for the few Liberal Arts Colleges that offer financial aid to international students after admitting them "need-blind." Also, of course, the bigger universities here. </p>

<p>But, hey...don't worry much about this right now, just tuck away the idea for your exploration of colleges, later. An example: Oberlin College; also this policy is now under consideration at Amherst College. (financially blind consideration of international students, for purposes of deciding first upon the merits of your application, regardless of your financial needs) </p>

<p>THere is MUCH to research. THat's another great reason to take that extra year in Canada. Here, people spend a good part of Spring Junior Year, the summer, and then Fall Senior Year, just dealing with the SAT's, visits to colleges, researching the financial aid, looking at websites, reading on CC
(best advisor!). It's a big activity. Take the time. You have given a gift to yourself with this extra year, if that's what you decide to do after considering it all. Best Wishes!</p>

<p>thank you very much!</p>