Does this mean you are interested in consulting or finance? Because as a blanket statement about “business” that is quite simply not accurate.
Where do you want to work? Wall Street? Northeast? Open to anywhere? We can provide more targeted suggestions if you give us more information.
Until we know more, I will add UGA Terry. You stand a solid chance of merit to bring costs in total comfortably below your top budget. ETA: Additionally UGA does not consider state of residence (as UNC does).
Even if you get $25k at BU the cost of attendance will be $57k and therefore out of your stated budget.
As @DramaMama2021 said above “prestige heavy” depends on the career path you want to seek.
You’re looking for prestige but also for merit. There are so many good public school choices - several of which have been named above. No point applying to colleges that will be unaffordable even with merit (which of course, isn’t guaranteed at most colleges).
I don’t think your assertion that BU is more prestigious than Rutgers is true. Certainly not for corporate recruiting (which is what I have done for 35+ years). Your parents may THINK it’s more prestigious and you can certainly apply there-- but IMHO no great loss if it comes in above your price tag.
I know it’s a school which doesn’t get a lot of love in-state, but it is highly regarded as a national research U in the corporate community. BU has some fantastic, targeted programs… but there is nothing so special about any of the business majors IMHO.
Totally agree. Rutgers IMO gets unfairly knocked down by in-state applicants.
And yet a reason stated by many non-applicants is that they don’t want to go to Rutgers is because EVERYONE from their high school is going there. How are all these people going there without applying since no one wants to apply to a school where everyone is going?
My nephew was in a graduating class of about 250. He also knew a lot of kids from years of youth sports and other activities, plus he knew kids from the years ahead of him. All told, he probably knew 200 kids out of 30k on campus, a drop in the bucket of who he knew at the flagship. My daughter went to an OOS flagship and still knew two kids she’d gone to K with. It was nice to see a familiar face or two in those early days.
A few years ago I needed to help my company hire a very specialized role… the hiring leaders asked for a PhD statistician. We launched a national search- just couldn’t find what they needed (complicated role, needed fantastic communication skills in addition to the technical stuff, some quirks to the position…
We ended up hiring a BS from Rutgers with a degree in applied math, and everyone was delighted. He did not have the research experience (crafting, writing and defending a dissertation) but he had everything else- strong writer, able to connect numbers to the bigger story, exceptional patience with non-technical people- and SUPERB statistical training, working with large datasets, mentored by some “known” professors in the field, etc.
NJ is a small state physically- I get that- and so a kid who has been active in sports or debate or other competitive ECs has likely visited a few dozen high schools over the years, been to every state park and beach, stopped at every rest stop on the turnpike… but that doesn’t mean you “know” everyone at Rutgers!!!
Since when is Fordham ‘prestigious’ for business? It’s no knock. A fine school but when I think of prestige, Fordham doesn’t come to mind…IMHO. Yes, it’s in a great location. I would not call it ‘prestigious’.
If you went to a company and looked at its grads, you’d be amazed at the diversity of ‘normal’ schools. Ps - other than a few fields, I don’t see business as prestige heavy at all. I think certain majors can stand out no matter where you go.
Are there schools that place better in certain jobs ? Yes. That’s why I asked for your sub interests which you refuse to answer. If the answer is I’m
17 and have no idea, that’s fair. But then I’d ask why business ?
Btw if it’s Wall Street, many go to colleges that don’t even have business schools.
What’s the end game here ? We can point you to the right schools. Save you money. Get you a great job. But it helps to know the end goal. And your desires…it seems big schools but is that necessarily the case ?? Urban, suburban ?
Now we just know under $50k and no clue what you seek. Again different colleges are tops in different fields of business.
Fordham Gabelli is a very good business program. Not NYU of course but very good.
It should be on OP’s list. S20 got COA to $50k but chose GT Scheller. OP should be able to get COA lower.
Fordham definitely punches above its weight in the business community (so does Baruch BTW, the ultimate value for a kid interested in business, particularly finance).
But agree- without knowing whether OP is interested in data analytics, M&A, marketing, procurement, whatever- we’re all just spitballing.
Another school that punches above its weight for business is SMU. It offers merit, and is very intentionally targeting kids from the northeast, particularly upper middle class kids, in order to raise its profile nationally.
Dallas is a growing job market, with banks such as Goldman Sachs moving as many people there as possible. (And, their commercial real estate finance unit is headquartered there).
We went through similar process with S20. Looking for a good business school but not full-pay so top schools like NYU or Wharton where no merit is offered were off the table. Needed merit to get cost below $50k. His stats weren’t as good as yours.
Your in-state option will probably be most reasonable. Rutgers will not be HS 2.0. Too many kids and international students. I’ve worked with several Rutgers grads. Very sharp.
As for plane rides see which cities have direct flights from your airport in NJ. Is a city with several daily non-stop flights of 2 hours worse than a 6-12 hour drive to an out of the way school? For us the answer was no.
Fordham should be on your list. Pitt could be a nice option. Apply early. South Carolina has an excellent international business program and most likely the cost would be very reasonable. We both really liked Northeastern. I was also pleasantly surprised with Drexel and Temple after visiting their business schools. Did not like the area around Temple though. Full disclosure, I’m a biased grad for Pitt and South Carolina.
SMU Cox probably ended-up 2nd on S20’s list. Great offer including BBA Scholar. Just couldn’t visit because of Covid so it fell off the list. Lots of flights to Dallas.
Georgia Tech’s COA is $50k/year but with AP credits you can easily graduate in 3 years. Add internships and/or a Co-op and it becomes very attractive. S20 is on-track to go 6 semesters. He’s had one internship plus a Co-op starting this fall. Lots of flights to Atlanta.
Reconsider UNC KF. It’s a competitive admission to KF and it’s holistic. No guarantee you’ll get into the business school even if you have a high GPA.
Look at Poets and Quants for some ideas of schools.
Good luck.
I said Fordham was a fine school. I was simply pointing out that OP keeps mentioning ‘prestige’ and rank and Fordham is not typically known for either. Not denigrating Gabelli and Fordham…it’s a fine school. So we don’t need to hammer on I insulted Fordham.
Op seems to be looking for Wharton, Gtown, NYU, Michigan at a discounted price.
I work with kids from Ga Tech. Vandy. UGA. UF. Guess what, they’re in the same roles as kids from LSU, Mercer, Ga State, Tuskegee, Columbus State, Delaware, Ogelthorpe. Will the top school kids be ‘higher’ in 5 and 10 years ? Depend on them. Management has no ‘top’ level kids I can think of. Our top guy is where my dad went - Fairleigh Dickinson. So in the end it’s the person.
That’s the rule, not the exception. But again, I’m not in consulting or IB.
And until we know a possible endgame it’s hard to direct OP.
Edit - what the OP seeks and it was mentioned yesterday by @momofboiler1 is IU. Many ‘feel’ it’s prestigious and it’s rank is top 20. And he’ll hit $$ with Hutton Honors.
Check the cost of airline tickets before discounting schools that are a bit farther away. My son is at Georgia Tech, and last year, he could pretty easily get a ticket on Frontier from Atlanta to Trenton for $79 round trip. It took five hours door-to-door. Easy to do for a weekend, and much cheaper than driving to a school that was five hours away!
We visited Temple Fox because it was an in-state school and they offered a lot of merit. It’s a good B-school but not highly ranked. My son probably felt the way you do about Rutgers. We met with a lot of people including the Business Honors admins and students. Very impressive group. The Honors admins really looked out for their students. Better advising and access to research and internships. The students were also top-notch. They would’ve fit-in at NYU or Wharton just fine. Most were at Temple because of cost.
Realistically, prestige plays a role although I think it’s overrated. We visited a fair number of B-schools with varied rankings. I’m convinced the outcomes between #11 and #99 on the B-school rankings aren’t because of prestige. GPA, internships and attitude matter more.
Rutgers is very stingy with merit fir in state students (mind got nothing) but I think you have a good shot at the honors college which comes with merit.
Even with no merit Rutgers is under $30k so well within OP’s budget.
(And I agree he is likely to qualify for honors + merit).
Apply for Presidential Scholarship at Dickinson College - 35k. Talk about your volunteer experience to emphasize community engagement. You can major there in International Business and Management. As a D3 school you could also probably run on their track/cross country teams, even if your times aren’t top
I definitely second the Baruch recommendation.
@placeholder132341 - you may also want to consider Stevens. Has a good reputation on Wall Street (if that’s your desired career choice), great co-op opportunities and easy access to Manhattan. You’ll likely qualify for merit aid bringing your cost under $50k.
A bit old, but still relevant…
Try University of Alabama.
I am actually curious where Stevens is placing its quant kids. Is there data available? The article drops names like DE Shaw and RenTec. But clearly those two places are pedigree sensitive.