Help! My 16 y/o Aspie has given up!

My S2 is a junior. He has been on IEP since Grade 2. He was outplaced for 4 years in elementary school. Great success in transitions back. HS transition ok.

Junior year hit a wall. Will not complete assignments, gets zeros, which are acceptable to him. He has already downgraded most of his classes and it has not helped.

I’m pulling my hair out. It’s not the work he doesn’t “get”, he just won’t do it.

The only 2 differences this year, s1 went away to college and I travel more for work.

Anyone face this or see it handled before?

Thanks for any help!

I feel for you. I have not experienced this but I do have a son if the same age with elements of aspergers . Any ideas what changed?

I’m just grasping for answers, but assume hormones, brother gone, trying to be a 16 YO w/friends and not quite being sure how? Junior years is also very hard my older S says @Center .

Is he hyper logical? Maybe he subconsciously wonders why do all that work for no tangible “reward”? His brother is gone (nobody to keep up with there) and you are traveling more so not around as much to push and pull him along.

He can’t see the long-term consequences unfortunately.

ETA: Sorry that you guys are going through this!

Fear not! He has you as a parent and you care about him and will figure out what to do.

I’m going to quickly I hope tell you my story to give you a glimpse down the road at what COULD happen in one scenario. It’s both scary and hopeful, loaded with anxiety and also awash with calm.

I have a child that some of my loving relatives have decided is Aspy, while professionals have not. But that connection I think may give me some insight into the struggle you as a parent are going through.

What I wish that I’d done: Homeschooled him so that he could focus on what his passions are and always feel accepted as the bright, creative, wonderful child that he is. A real gift to the world.

What I did: Worked full time, got him tested for LDs, and kept him in IEP classes in supportive public schools. No matter what I did, it was a disaster. Mainly because if he didn’t want or agree to do something, it just wouldn’t get done and life was really hard for him and for everyone involved. Again: super supportive schools. Some teachers "got
" him and others were clueless and frustrated. Child stopped working on assignments in HS from sheer frustration of having to do that stuff for X number of years, plus boredom. He got more and more depressed during high school no matter what we did. The last two years of high school, he got so depressed that I was begging him to drop out and we’d take it from there. After age 16 dropping out is a genuine option. He could always get his GED. No amount of high school alienation and pain was worth that diploma.

Despite our begging him to drop out, he continued, a daily dogged awful slog, but the cost was huge. He was touch and go depressed for 6 months after graduating and we are now beginning to see glimmers of life and striding forward.

The lesson that I learned was that high school really doesn’t matter. Once you drop the idea of the Importance of High School, as a parent, you can calm down and take his life-coaching in a different direction. My husband kept saying: It’s just high school! At first that made me panic, but then I realized: Wait! It is just high school. The goal is to get through somehow and get out the other side. Who cares how that happens? Then it gets easier. The rest of the world is more forgiving in that there are more paths provided, more room for your child’s cool creativity and interests. He will find that path. High school = 1 path. Life = infinite number of paths. There is a good, solid, hopeful and helpful path for him out there. Really.

Also, it’s worth remembering that he’s aspy but he’s also a teen and he has teen stuff to go through. Teen brains are different things from yours and mine. The frontal lobe will fully integrate at about age 25. That’s the lobe of self-control. Impulsiveness goes way down at that age, for a reason. For my child, waiting and allowing him to grow and change seems to be working. We are relaxed at home, purposefully setting aside the structure of school that he was forced to endure for virtually his whole life, and which he did endure with such courage. For the first time in 12 years, he’s being allowed to pursue his personal interests. (We also ask him to do cleaning and work out once a day, that sort of thing, and will start him into volunteer work and/or paying work soon.)

There is a path for late-starting college students. If my child goes back to school, and I think he will, he is on that track. There are so many people, especially boys, who are late starters of college that several schools have entrance options for nontraditional students. Nontrad: It’s a thing. Use it to your advantage. The cool thing about nontrad is that SAT stops mattering, HS GPA stops mattering. What matters is their work experience and grades from community college. The longer you stay out of high school the more your com col experience and work experience matter to colleges.

But the most important thing, IMO is that he feels your love and support, which I’m sure that he does. he will be fine, he will find his life path, because he has you there to coach him.

“Some teachers get him, others don’t and are frustrated”…

Absolutely. As one school employee once said, “if you don’t get S2, you just don’t get S2”. Profound.

Thanks all for your thoughts. Every time I think I have him back on track or figured out, he goes and changes it up! :wink:

I told him last night, “I love you more than anything bud. You gotta get your sh** together tho!”

Yes he doesn’t see the point. I’d take him out and homeschool, but he would hate not seeing his friends. I should speak to his guidance counselor. Maybe he could home school most subject but do PE, video, etc at school and do track. Is that even an option?

I don’t know but it sounds like you have a supportive school that may be willing to figure out a flexible program for him. That plus your creative spirit will carry the day.

I’m going to bookmark this thread so that I can follow your progress. sending you hearts and hugs.

He will be okay. You will also be okay.

Hearts and hugs.

Wow, your kid sounds so much like my kid @Dustyfeathers. And that is what we did - homeschooled for a long time. I was extremely blessed and lucky to be able to do it, and that my H supported me doing it. It nearly put me in the looney bin at times but I’m still here to tell the tale. :slight_smile: And looking back I would not have changed it.

Traditional school is absolute torture for some kids.

We, too, had teachers who ‘got’ DS and others where there was a major clash.

Empathizing with you OP! Could he finish high school in virtual school? Or get a GED and go do something practical somewhere? What is your gut instinct for what he needs?

@SouthFloridaMom9 I’m almost in tears reading this! It’s been a lonely journey and I’m so happy to know that you’re out there and lived to tell the tale! ((hug))

That’s a great idea, BTW the virtual school!

We have a friend whose child did the Stanford U school online for HS students. I completely forgot about that. OP should look into this. The school is cool because you do it at home but the student is online at the same time as others. It works like a classroom (at least some p;arts of it) and your child can raise his hand and everything. If your child has some tics that are not fun for teachers, this system can help him feel at ease in the classroom setting. (this was the sitch for my friend; lovely young boy had some tics that we were perfectly okay with but that didn’t work out well in virtually any school).

This may sound elementary and/or redundant, but what does HE have to say about what’s going on? I’m all for finding the schooling solution that works (I’m one of those never-thought-I’d-homeschool people who did, because for a while, that’s what my Aspie needed), but it’s possible that you’re applying a neurotypical POV to the situation and misinterpreting what’s going on. Is the work too hard? Is he missing his brother? Is he angry/annoyed with his teachers? There’s too many variables here to know a solution, yet.

If he doesn’t already have a therapist, I’d recommend you look into finding him someone who specializes in adolescents with ASD to help you navigate this tricky time. Sometimes the same question from a supportive third party works a lot better than when it comes from a parent. Good luck!!

He won’t talk about it, unfortunately. The school therapist is trying too. He has never been one for talk therapy. He just says nothing.

Possibles:

-He likes this girl and is not sure how she feels.
-He is not sure how to initiate with friends, tho he has them.
-He has math tutor, and he has ratcheted down to the lower class levels of most classes.
-Maybe he misses some assignment and then figures, well I might as well do none?
-Too distracted by internet.
-panic/fear of what is to come (if he does well, college…)
-disinterest/boredom
-he thinks if you can’t do it well, you should not do anything (assignment wise).
-depression

He’s a funny and popular kid. So he copes socially, but also possible doing that is exhausting his mind each day?

Well . . . . although we never said that we asked what HE thinks, i hope that it was implied all along. At least in my case, and I believe from the kind words of others in this profile, that the child was part of the discussion every inch of the way.

It’s hard, though, to know whether my child at least knew what he was agreeing to. In the end, he didn’t realize all that was going on. It’s a tough road to try to anticipate what he wants and also to understand what he actually understands.

I’m sure that i made mistakes. I have no doubt of that. I make no excuses for myself.

^no excuses are ever needed. With this stuff, we just do the best we can and hope it’s good enough. Right now I’m failing miserably, and failure is not an option!

Failure is NOT an option. Just keep plugging forward and you will prevail.

@HRSMom when I read a thread like this and hear all the wonderful feedback it makes me wish we could all sit in a room together and talk. Failure is not an option. He has YOU and you care. There are many paths in life and none is right but we are all conditioned to think that one path is the right path and if our kids aren’t on that path they are failing. I have a wonderfully creative and extraordinarily smart boy who has crippling social issues and profound feelings of inferiority. No real friends ever. I think we just have to help them find ways to make small achievements and keep moving forward. Also your school and what is possible. Anything is possible. Just ask!

@Center I feel for you and your son. . . . I’m so sorry to hear about his social issues. That’s so painful. I won’t attempt to make suggestions. I’m sure that you’ve thought of all of my"solutions" already. You are so strong.

In the City were I live, there’s a group called Achilles Int. It was founded by a disabled Vietnam vet in NYC and it spread to other locations. Maybe there’s a chapter near you? The group helps disabled athletes work out. The athletes are "all* levels and all types of abilities. Athletes include those who can barely move to those who are running marathons at 7 min miles. Non-disabled volunteers help the athletes work out, as guides and as a social group. Like there may be 3 or more guides for an athlete and it becomes a moving party for the athlete–and for the volunteers.

In any event, at least up here on Saturdays they meet in the park, there are several aspie kids. The kids get out. They get exercise (walking or running or whatever) and they have a social time with each other and with the volunteers.

http://www.achillesinternational.org/national-chapters/

So an update. Both boys bickering thru break. S1 leaves tomorrow. S2 spent a ton of time catching up on missing homework from this quarter! Ugh. His dad is perstering me to sign him up for SAT prep. I’m more concerned about the now, but I suppose I don’t want to harm him next year if he is ready…

Fingers crossed for 2017. Everyone travelling less. Let’s hope it helps!

Well you never know. He might be ready. What SAT prep do you think he may like?

We are sending him to a normal in person 6 week. We’ll see. He made a 1300 on the PSAT with no prep, so hopefully he will be fine.

@Dustyfeathers thanks for this I will look into it. Happy new year.