HELP! NEED ADVICE ON COURSE RIGOR- Stanford, UVA, Boston College...

Hello, so my freshman and sophomore year of high school my school only offered honors, so i took all of the honors course available. Coming junior year, I switched to a different school so I could take more rigorous classes. So, Junior year I am taking (at a state college):

college classes:

-Comp 1 and 2 at the state college
-US History at the college level
-Macroeconomics college level
-Environmental Science college level

reg. HS classes:

-Honors Physics
-Honors Algebra 2 (plan on taking pre-calc over summer so i can go on to stat or calculus senior year)
-Honors Spanish 3
-Honors Family Finance

These are the most rigorous courses I could possibly take… would schools such as Stanford see this?? I am one of the most passionate people i know lol and most motivated… I don’t want to go into detail but i do in fact think I will do amazing things in my life and write great essays for schools such as stanford. I own my own business, have my blog which gets over 10,000 readers a month, and I intern at a startup magazine along with a couple of other things that tie in together quite nicely displaying my passions.

So, Whaddya think??

and again, my school only offered 1 AP course, that is why i switched

i got into bc, took 8 APs and 9 honors throughout hs.

@businessg101 Do you think i could still get in with my course load now? I am taking the most rigorous courses I can and have a pretty good GPA

It’s really impossible to tell. If these truly are the most difficult and rigorous courses to be taken, your counselor should reflect that. Also, course rigor is only one piece of the puzzle that is “Stanford Admissions.”

Best of luck!!!

It’s a very strong courseload.
You do NOT need to take calculus before college, Precalculus Honors with an A is perfectly respectable and stronger than Statistics UNLESS you intend to study economics or anything STEMy in which case you should take precalculus over the summer and calculus AB during the year.
Next year, try to take at the state college: either one English or History classes that has the classes you took as a junior, as their pre-requisite (or that has a higher number than the classes you already took).
Do you have an art class? If not, take one as it’s required for CA universities.
For Stanford, you need to have: 4 years of English, Science, Social Science/History + math up to Calculus or Honors precalculus + foreign language up to level 4 or AP. Science should include Bio, chem, physics + any other science class.It’s a good idea to have an art class. Your electives/personal choices should reflect what you’re interested in: you can double up in a field, pursue a passion in journalism/photography, explore seminars… there should be some coherence and consistency to your choices.
Ultimately what will make the difference is a 3.75+ GPA (unweighted) along with a state-level or national distinction.
Stanford’d rate of acceptance is brutal, so don’t focus on it.
Beside Stanford, UVA, and BC, (three very different colleges in term of culture), what colleges are you interested in? What are your test scores, do you have a hook, what’s in-state for you?

@MYOS1634 Hi! Thanks for the advice and your opinion! I want to major in business at one of the top schools for business, that is my plan. I took art all the way up until just this year as my elective as I love to be creative, but wanted to take “harder” elective my upperclassmen years haha! I am also interested in UF, UNC, Wake Forest, Duke, NYU, Cornell?? (maybe) UMN twin cities, Penn State but Stanford is definitely my dream school haha I love it so much, but i know its very very realistic that i get rejected haha! My test scores are the only thing i would say is not strong about my application,… I have taken the ACT once so far and only got a 28 but I am doing prep and aI have a tutor and I had the flu the day i took it (i didn’t find out until the break haha :-///) My in-state is Florida haha! I have a lot of hooks, my dad didn’t go to college and he is now a VERY successful entrepreneur and business owner (is that a hook… idk). I have my own business in which I have raised over 200 dollars for saving th elcal endangered sea turtles in which i dive with every once in a while since i live in Florida. I Have a passion for saving the sea turtles because I a a PADI certified diver and love sea turtles so, since i have been an entrepreneur my whole life (prob inherited somewhat from my dad) I started my own business with money I saved up and sell my tee’s through my own blog/website. My tee’s have been recognized and featured by many other websites as well. Along with that, I am a social media influencer and my blog get over 20,000 hits and 10,00 unique visitors a month. I write about inspiring things, my travels, travel advice, fashion, and life in general. That is just skimming my major passions and I could go more in detail but it would take awhile haha! Sorry for such the long post.

oh and i intern for a start-up fashion magazine in which i get to write articles, and i am a her campus high school ambassador which also ties in mty passion for media

Of the schools mentioned, the only ones whose admission web pages specify calculus while in high school are:

Cornell: engineering only (recommended for human ecology)
Duke: engineering only

Please stop saying haha.

Seriously.

As a smart, educated young woman you do not need to giggle and downplay your accomplishments.

Also, watch out for things that reek of privilege. You’ve raised a whole $200 to save turtles which you love seeing when you (regularly) scuba dive. Don’t know exactly how much of your kit you own, but you probably spend $50/dive anyway.

As for course rigor and APs, etc: colleges will automatically get a profile of what your school offers, so they will know what was possible. As @MYOS1634 says, if your course rigor is tough relative to your school’s offerings your GPA (esp relative to your class) and your test scores will matter more.

In the meantime, do some more homework on the schools you have listed- they are a very varied bunch!

@collegemom3717 my grandpa owns the shop and has worked there for years so we get to go for free… anyways, even if my dad does make a fair amount he makes me work for eveything regarding my own business, blog, etc. he certainly doesn’t pay for everything and he expects me to do the hard work (he taught me work ethic). Since I spent over $300 just on tee’s plus other expenses for advertising, i consider it to be a lot.

the “haha” is not necessary, it’s not punctuation :), better lose it now before you start communicating with colleges.

A hook is being/doing something the college needs. Some are known (legacy, athlete, URM, development) and some are unknown (you can’t predict if they’ll need a bassoon player when you, the bassoon player, apply.)
Being an entrepreneur is not a hook. If neither parent graduated from a 4-year college then you’re considered first gen and it’s a hook at some colleges.
However, it doesn’t sound like being first gen caused you a lot of hardships shaping you as a person with grit, inner resourcefulness, etc. An example of overcoming hardship is a kid who was homeless, he depended on others to drive him to a place where he could catch a bus; if the other person was short on cash for gas, then he had to walk for 2 hours and would arrive late, and he didn’t want to reveal he was homeless so he was penalized. Obviously walking when temperatures are in their teens isn’t great, since you sweat - and sweat, being water, can freeze, and when you’re homeless you also don’t have the proper clothes and shoes, so you are in physical pain the whole time and can get sick. And of course because you do get sick but can’t see a doctor or buy drugs, and your living conditions aren’t quite what you need to recover, you miss more school, which you then have to catch up upon. Getting good grades becomes a heroic feat, going to school a test of perseverance, staying healthy and optimistic and thinking about college requires depths of energy and hope. This is what is called “overcoming obstacles” and it’s only a hook at some colleges.[and yes, the kid above did get into college and is currently attending a school he loves, after much angst and getting rejected from his first choices, all of which were less selective than UVA or BC.]
At colleges that take first-gen status into account, they WILL count the fact your parents are probably clueless about the process and thus that you show more independence than most in the process.
Do you attend a public or a private school?
The fact you had to work for what you have will be important (and it will serve you well in college, because without work ethics it’d be harder to succeed) but it’s not the same as having to overcome hardship.
For this level of school, raising $200 will not be impressive (they’re used to amounts in the thousands - like the kids who raised money for veterans by recycling phones, or the one who organized a carwash advertised throughout town…) The bar is really high. However, your personal interest is apparent in the little blurb above - keep working on that “voice” and the amount doesn’t matter for a real, personal interest, rather the fact you raised money for a cause you believe in is what matters. For Stanford though you’ll need to have made a lasting impact - we’re talking resarch or raising awareness in your town with real numbers quantifying that impact.
Would you qualify for Bright Futures? (Beware, the thresholds for qualifications have been upped considerably - it used to be that for a minimum award you needed ACT20, but it’s been pushed to 26, meaning 80% Floridian students don’t qualify anymore.)
You need to start by investigating various campus environments. Visit the large public university nearest to you, a large private (UMiami? UTampa?), and a LAC or two, to start with (Eckerd, Rollins…) Figure out what type of environment you want, how far you can go from home, etc. Ask your parents how much they will contribute for your college (keep in mind that in their time, it was possible to “work your way through” college but it’s no longer possible, so you need to know how much they’ll contribute.) Learn what your budget will be and run the Net Price Calculators. Cross out any college that doesn’t fit the budget. Know whether you’ll need to pursue merit aid or not. Take the ACT as often as need - the threshold for merit at most public universities is 32, but that’s basic for Stanford (75% have that or higher) and just allows you to pass the first cut.
If you tell us
-your parents’ budget

  • areas you’re interested in (humanities, science…)
  • current GPA and scores
    we’ll be able to suggest colleges to look into.
    In addition, borrow from your library or read: Princeton review’s guide to the colleges (succinct, covers the top 10% colleges in the country for stats AND vibe - vibe is very important). For details, Insider’s guide or Fiske guide are good tools.

Yes, watch your tone in even casual posts like these. Inserting “haha”, “lol” is disconcerting at best, a turnoff at worst. You want to present a picture of a viable candidate. You may not realize it but the “giggly” non-serious tone can slip through. Something to work on.

I agree, you need to raise the score. My own child went from 27 to 31 between fall and June of her junior year so you can definitely raise it. it took consistent practice and a little studying.

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