HELP! picking arch schools....

College Majors Architecture Major
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<p>Going to be Senior, lives in MICH.. check out my stats profile for rest...</p>

<p>Help me pick a school..</p>

<p>I don't really want a 4 + 2 year deal.. (will settle)
I prefer to double major (really important, but will settle for arch alone)</p>

<p>UMICH - 4+2, cheap, NO double major</p>

<p>Rice - 3rd in nation, Texas is hot.. Yes double major</p>

<p>UCincinnati - 2nd in nation, NO double</p>

<p>*Carnegie Mellon *- 9th? or 7th?, YES double</p>

<p>Northeastern - In Boston (love that place), amazing co-op (lessen 1 year of interning), NO double</p>

<p>*UPenn *- 5 year BARCH + 1 year Masters (pretty good deal), NO double</p>

<p>Syracuse - 5th (?-pretty high up there), ?-double</p>

<p>MIT - NICE dorms, boston, can i even get in?? ya, right YES double </p>

<p>*Cornell *- only accepts 35-40 students a year.. personally i don't think i'm one of the top 35-40 arch students in the nation...</p>

<p>Miami @ ohio -i know people who go there, amazing campus, not accredited program ? double</p>

<p>U Southern Cali -in soucali (don't know how i feel) hot? ?-double</p>

<p>anywhere else, that i missed guys?</p>

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<p>You missed a few. PENN (University of Pennsylvania) as of last year for the entering class of 2007 did not offer a BARCH. PennState does though. Rice has been ranked 2nd and Syracuse 3rd. Virginia Tech and RPI also offer BARCH.</p>

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<p>if you want to do a 5 year program, it is impossible to double major. if you do, prepare to be in UG for like 7+ years. the reason why it is an accelerated program is because it takes the 4+2 into 5. if double majoring is so important to you, do a 4+2</p>

<p>cornell accepts about 18 students ED and accepts 32 ish RD. they keep the class to about 50-60.</p>

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<p>at rice, at least, it is possible to do a b. arch and double major, but it depends what you want to double major IN. art history and visual arts are pretty easy to do ( a double major in art history requires 10 classes, and four of those courses are also required for architecture). other than that, it's pretty hard, but not impossible. </p>

<p>rice also has a one year internship. and a really small studio (24 people in your graduating class).</p>

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<p>double major Civil Engineering... and from the ones i know if you can or not, i called and asked the departments, e-mail or directly spoke to them...</p>

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<p>At USC you technically <em>can</em> double-major, but I've only known one person to do it, and she had some very serious GPA problems.</p>

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<p>I think you should call up some of these departments and ask flat out if you can double major as a first step. And 2nd-- figure out how committed you are-- why do you want to do architecture vs. something else? Btw-What do you want to double major in?</p>

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<p>Missed UMiami</p>

<p>That's not a great double major. Both majors are too time consuming--and require nearly opposite patterns of thought. Neither department will be thrilled. You've seriously underestimated the difficulty of doing well in any architecture program--which will put doubt in the minds of the admission committee.</p>

<p>It's show time baby. Pick one and give it a go.</p>

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<p>Double majoring in engineering and architecture is very very difficult. I'm doing it, but doing it means even more long nights than architecture already entails.</p>

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<p>^ I say if you want to do something in engineering,</p>

<p>UCBerkeley offers a Minor in structurual engineering while pursuing a B.A in architecture. I have to say, I agree with others that architecture takes alot of work out of you and if you can do, but if you can do it, kudos for you.</p>

<p>Btw, Laldm how are you able to double major in CE, and where are you attending?</p>

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<p>double major in what?</p>

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<p>Civil Engineering</p>

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<p>how one might do so if say I'm going to UCLA.</p>

<p>im interseted in doign civil as well</p>

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<p>Lori1122,</p>

<p>If you are interested in architecture and engineering, you should really check out Virginia Tech. It is a wonderful school and very well respected in both areas. For out of staters it is very affordable, too, in comparison with some of the other private schools that are listed. Good Luck!</p>

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<p>I know that on paper a combination of Civil Engineering and architecture might seem to make sense, but in the real world a civil degree will probably not help your architecture career or vice versa. Each has a very different mindset, and I suspect that you are going to feel more comfortable in one or the other, but probably not both. This is why you are not finding a lot of dual degree programs. Calatrava is the exception to this rule, and he is probably one in a million.</p>

<p>Go visit some engineering and architecture firms in your area, see if they will allow you to do a shadowing program where you follow someone around for a couple of days. That should give you a pretty good idea of the personality of the two professions, and where you feel comfortable.</p>

<p>rick</p>

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<p>Lori,
Miami Ohio is accredited -- but the Masters degree not the undergrad degree (It is a 4+2 program). I'm not sure about double majors, but they REQUIRE a concentration in an area not related to the major with the thematic sequence. They also require a lot of LAC type courses with their Miami Plan, which you can sometimes focus into a type of concentration.
It is not ranked up there with the other schools, but seems to have a very solid program, especially for anyone who is not 100% sure about architecture. While they stress a LAC education, there will still be 4 full years of studio at the undergrad level, which will help with assembling a portfolio for grad school admissions.</p>

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<p>rick12

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I know that on paper a combination of Civil Engineering and architecture might seem to make sense, but in the real world a civil degree will probably not help your architecture career or vice versa. Each has a very different mindset, and I suspect that you are going to feel more comfortable in one or the other, but probably not both. This is why you are not finding a lot of dual degree programs. Calatrava is the exception to this rule, and he is probably one in a million.</p>

<p>Go visit some engineering and architecture firms in your area, see if they will allow you to do a shadowing program where you follow someone around for a couple of days. That should give you a pretty good idea of the personality of the two professions, and where you feel comfortable.</p>

<p>rick

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<p>i know what i'm getting into.. I work (intern w/ pay) at m local civil engineering, surveying, and architecture firm... When i spoke to an admissions couselor at cornell, she said it was one of the most popular double majors for arch... i just can't pick a school...</p>

<p>** kjofkw**</p>

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Lori,
Miami Ohio is accredited -- but the Masters degree not the undergrad degree (It is a 4+2 program). I'm not sure about double majors, but they REQUIRE a concentration in an area not related to the major with the thematic sequence. They also require a lot of LAC type courses with their Miami Plan, which you can sometimes focus into a type of concentration.
It is not ranked up there with the other schools, but seems to have a very solid program, especially for anyone who is not 100% sure about architecture. While they stress a LAC education, there will still be 4 full years of studio at the undergrad level, which will help with assembling a portfolio for grad school admissions.

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<p>LAC?? whats that? the only problem i have with the 4 +2 thing is, i know a girl who went to umich for 4 years of arch and couldn't get in anywhere for the masters program... what if i can't get into the program later? that would suck</p>

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<p>Lori1122,</p>

<p>I am a cornell arch student and I don't know anyone in the school who double majors in both architecture and engineering. architecture is already a very intensive major and I cannot imagine myself doing engineering as well (engineering at cornell is also very tough).</p>

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<p>yeah-- I agree, the problem is that they are both very hard majors. I have a lot of friends going into engineering and I know for a fact that engineering in general- (don’t know about civil) is one of the hardest majors to have (along with arch). I too would like to have a strong engineering background, however I think the most prudent thing to do is just take more electives in structures or some type of engineering course.</p>

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<p>Lori seems deadset on going the BArch route (and double majoring in engineering....which does sound unusual to me as each major is way more than what a BA major entails in terms of amount of courses for the major). However, she COULD do an engineering degree in Architectural Engineering....for instance, my alma mater, Tufts, offers an engineering degree in Architectual Engineering (and I think you can double major or minor in Archictectural Studies which is a BA), and then go onto grad school somewhere to get a MArch degree. She would then have an engineering degree and an arch degree. For that matter, her undergrad could be in Civil Engineering instead of Architectural Engineering.</p>