Help please! ACC route to UT Austin

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<p>Hi</p>

<p>I have been posting on this forum for some time now. Everybody has been so helpful, thankyou.</p>

<p>I am going to harp on the same issue as previous post. I am moving to TX in this summer 2010. After establishing my residency I would like to complete my bachelor's degree accounting</p>

<p>I have a per say 2 yr degree from NY 2001 GPA 3.5. I was wondering if Fresh start would apply to me in 2010, 2011. I dont a colorful portfolio of extra circular activities. I have sort of lost touch with my old college. I am bit non traditional student </p>

<p>I want to attend UT Austing BBA+MPA combined program, </p>

<p>so if I enroll in Austin Community College take all the indicator courses with high GPA(fingers crossed) and then transfer to UT Austin. Is it doable</p>

<p>Or 2nd option</p>

<p>Go to UTDallas complete undergraduate accounting, take GMAT and then apply to MPA UT austin</p>

<p>Which in your opinion would be the best option for me</p>

<p>Thanks for the help</p>

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<p>Whichever options gets you the stronger GPA.</p>

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<p>Fresh Start applies only after ten years. For you, that would be 2011.</p>

<p>Either option is a doable one. Remember though that external transfer admissions to McCombs is very competitive. You can always do one year at ACC, transfer to UT (say in economics) and take courses to get a high enough GPA to transfer internally. You will have much higher odds of being admitted as an internal transfer than external. Your grades outside of UT will not matter so you won’t need to wait for 2011 for Fresh Start in order to maximize your GPA. </p>

<p>If you go to ACC one year, try for UT and don’t get in, you can still go to UT-Dallas to complete your bachelors. If you do go to ACC and if you take accounting there, I highly recommend Dr. Reed Peoples. He is an outstanding teacher. You will learn a great deal from him.</p>

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<p>Thanks Fiyero for the info. You said transfer to economics at UT austin. Is economics in Mccombs School of Business</p>

<p>What courses I should take at Austin Community college, Business indicator???</p>

<p>If I take the Business indicator courses at ACC, and then transfer to Austin in economics major, What “classes” would I take there?</p>

<p>Would not that be ‘useless’ as accoutning major does not have many economics courses </p>

<p>Your grades outside of UT will not matter so you won’t need to wait for 2011 for Fresh Start in order to maximize your GPA. I did not get what you mean by this, please explain </p>

<p>Thanks for the help</p>

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<p>UT has a program for economics students where they can apply for the integrated MPA program as well as BBAs. Fiyero suggested it because it is much, much easier to get into the economics program than the business program. Also, regular accounting majors still end up taking 3 economics classes. This stuff is all on their website if you cared to look.</p>

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<p>Openedskittles: please be understanding, I have been constantly looking at UT Austin’s website and have been in touch with them as well. But I still have not gotten the answer I am looking for.</p>

<p>I have been away from educational scene for Ah around 10 years and I am looking to change states as well. Residency tuition fee as well is a big issue. Anyway</p>

<p>All I wanted to ask is: what is the easiest way to do from UT Austin the following:</p>

<p>I want to finish my undergraduate in accounting (or BBA with accounting) and then do MPA.</p>

<p>Untill I get my residency issue cleared: I want to complete one year at Austin Community College before I transfer to UT Austin. Which courses I should take there?</p>

<p>In your opinion Economics undergraduate major is MUCH easier to get in. Actually someone earlier recommended the same approach (economics). The problem is I dont like Economics</p>

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<p>Economics is not in McCombs but in liberal arts. It is a much easier transfer and you will still need three semesters of economics for accounting at McCombs anyway, just as openskittles said. </p>

<p>Wherever you go, ACC or ____, take the indicator courses. You will be at a disadvantage without them. Calculus will definitely be easier at ACC.</p>

<p>I’m sorry you don’t like economics. But for an internal transfer candidate, you really aren’t out anything. Just don’t go beyond 420K. Feel free to be upfront with your advisors. They are very familiar with people wanting to transfer. You will not have to take any economics courses you don’t want. </p>

<p>Another tip is to have your advisor code you for the actuarial science concentration from the math department. I can’t already hear your protests on this so hear me out. You will start with calculus anyway so you are out nothing there. The actuarial science plan is available with any degree at UT and allows access to certain courses in McCombs. Among these courses are the first two accounting classes. That way you will not fall behind. This combination with economics is very common. </p>

<p>You mentioned Fresh Start in your original post. Fresh Start allows someone to wipe out all previous coursework and start over fresh. You receive no credit for any previous classes and no GPA. Your previous work was a 3.5. That should get you into liberal arts. It will not get you into McCombs. If you wanted to do Fresh Start, you would need to wait another year. But you are are going to try an internal transfer, that wait is unnecessary since your 3.5 will get you into liberal arts. Once you are attending UT, your GPA for an internal transfer into McCombs starts over fresh anyway. None of your previous work will count toward your GPA for admissions purposes, although the coursework will count toward qualifying. What I mean it, if you took calculus somewhere before, you get the credit for having completed the class but the grade you earned in that class will not count toward the GPA used for internal admission to McCombs. </p>

<p>If you take a year at ACC, I would be sure to take every indicator course possible. Definitely the calculus courses and be sure they are not business calculus but the regular sequence. Other than that, work on general ed requirements. You will need three hours from one of the following: psychology, anthropology, or sociology. Another three hour credit from one of the areas above or in the fine arts. If you need a foreign language credit, I would get that out of the way as well. Keep your GPA up but don’t take too many hours. Too many and you will not be allowed. I believe the number of credits is 90.</p>

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<p>Well, you should obviously take calculus 1 and 2, and micro and macro economics at ACC and whatever else they told you was an indicator course.</p>

<p>It is not my opinion that economics is easier to be admitted into, it is a fact. As long as you are admitted into the university at all you can do economics, while you need to be admitted into McCombs to do accounting, and that process is much more competitive with a much lower acceptance rate and they expect a higher GPA.</p>

<p>You’re missing the whole point about bringing up economics. You want to do the BBA+MPA program, which is fine, but there is also an economics+MPA program. I realize that you would prefer to have your undergraduate degree in accounting, but it is much more difficult to be accepted into that program and we were merely pointing out that if you really wanted to do the integrated MPA program, you could do so through the economics department where your chances of being accepted are greater.</p>

<p>By the way, I also know that someone else suggested the economics approach. If you will read my message, you will see that I referenced that post not to tell you that the economics approach existed, but to explain why that user brought it up. If you read things a bit more carefully you would get more out of our responses, but probably wouldn’t have even needed to start this thread in the first place.</p>

<p>All you wanted to know is the easiest way to get your MPA from UT Austin, and we’ve been trying to tell you that it is actually through the economics department. You should apply to McCombs because you want a BBA, but it is fact (not opinion) that going that route is a more competitive process.</p>

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<p>Thank you all again for your time. </p>

<p>May I ask openedskittles and Fiyero, are you attending UT Austin or have attended in past.</p>

<p>How do you know that level of detail? just curious.</p>

<p>If you have attended it: could you explain why is to SOO HARD to get in McCombs accounting. What is different about it</p>

<p>P.S. I know they are the number 1 in USA</p>

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<p>Hi Fiyero</p>

<p>Do you anything about School of Undergraduate studies at UT Austin</p>

<p>Here is the link</p>

<p>[Undergraduate</a> Studies | Why UT? | Be a Longhorn](<a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/whyut/academics/ugs/]Undergraduate”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/whyut/academics/ugs/)</p>

<p>Could not that solve my problem??</p>

<p>Please let me know</p>

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<p>I am a student at UT Austin now.</p>

<p>All of the information in this thread is available on the McCombs website, though. It took me about 10 seconds to look up this page with pretty much every single thing you are wondering about on it:
[Undergraduate</a> Programs - The McCombs School of Business at The University of Texas at Austin](<a href=“http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/udean/admissions/external.asp]Undergraduate”>http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/udean/admissions/external.asp)</p>

<p>As you can see, the average GPA for an external transfer is about a 3.9 and the most recent acceptance rate was 17% for Texas residents (and about 6% for non-residents). I don’t know the exact numbers for the entire university (though I’m sure you could look them up fairly easily), but you just need to be in the university to do economics, while accounting requires the highly-competitive admission into McCombs.</p>

<p>The School of Undergraduate Studies is easy to transfer into, but does not solve your problem. That is a college full of students (mostly freshmen) who have yet to declare a major. If you were accepted into that college, you could transfer into the College of Liberal Arts and do economics, which would solve your problem because economics students with high GPAs are eligible to apply for the integrated MPA program just like accounting majors, so you could start taking accounting classes sooner without being admitted into McCombs right when you transfer in.</p>

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<p>thanks openedskittles for quick response. Would you mind if I ask you some questions relating to UT Austin.</p>

<p>What are you majoring in, hard classes, GPA ?
Are you junior, senior etc
where do you live. on campus, off campus</p>

<p>P.S. If I do get admission in UT Austin, will you show me the ropes about how to do internal transfer, show me around etc It seems hard process. </p>

<p>Maybe I will elaborate on my situation: Due to lack of planning, guidance and some family issues my early education career did not go well.</p>

<p>I take full responsibility for it. Sure I got a degree but its not worthwhile, took me 4 yrs just to get 2yrs degree and sadly most of it is not applicable to toward my accounting major. For me its a long struggle now </p>

<p>Lot of my time was wasted. At this stage, before I make any committment to a particular school I want to ensure as much as I can that time will not be wasted.</p>

<p>What I am concerned is lets say I do get admission in economics, keep a very high GPA, and apply to McCombs school for accounting internal transfer. The whole process ends up takeing so long and I end up wasting semesters. </p>

<p>Are my fears real? Are classes at UT Austin really hard?</p>

<p>Would you please help me? I would really appreciate your help.</p>

<p>Could we chat? My yahoo id is: pencil787. Add me if you would like to help me</p>

<p>I really need someone like yourself who is currently at UT Austin to guide me</p>

<p>Just curious, are you male/female?</p>

<p>Please be understanding. I will pay more attention to your posts now.</p>

<p>Thank you once again.</p>

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<p>My only advice to you based on reading your posts: Quit being so overly dramatic.</p>

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<p>sp1212, what is wrong with trying to figure out what is the best option for me.</p>

<p>I am not being dramatic, at this stage I have family to support as well, so all my decisions will impact somehow on it as well.</p>

<p>I am really sorry if I dont fit into someone’s ‘typical student profile’ carefree perhaps</p>

<p>My advice to you is: if you cant encourage/guide someone atleast dont discourage them.
Best of luck to you, no hard feelings</p>

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<p>pencil787</p>

<p>I am a student currently at UT. I’m in the math department, in the actuarial science option. I’m rethinking my plan right now and have read quite a bit about the MPA program. I’m looking to do it myself now. </p>

<p>I don’t know anything about the school of undergraduate studies. It started after I did. Sorry.</p>

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<p>Hi Fiyero: are you freshman? how would you internally transfer to mccombs, let me know if you get accepted, best of luck</p>

<p>Could I chat with you let me know</p>

<p>P.S. I asked you in my previous post if you would like to chat, no response, Let me know either way </p>

<p>thanks for the help</p>

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<p>Oh sorry, I didn’t see it before. I never get on chat, sorry. </p>

<p>I am not a freshman but a junior. I won’t be transferring internally to McCombs but instead will finish my math degree. After that, the plan is to complete the one year MPA program. I have too many hours to transfer to McCombs. Also, I kind of like the idea of having an undergrad degree in something other than business and then complete a masters in accounting.</p>

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<p>Do you know who has been successful as internal transfer to McCombs accounting.</p>

<p>How would you rate the academics: very tough, tough, mediume etc</p>

<p>How was your experience at UT</p>

<p>Any good/bad teachers???</p>

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<p>Yes, several. </p>

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<p>Wide variety. Some courses are a real ***** but you learn tons. Others, easy and you learn next to nothing. Overall, the academics are solid and you will find yourself challenged. </p>

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<p>I love UT. There are many areas which are highly regarded ranking wise. There are lots of options for classes. For example, the university offers 30 something foreign languages. For writing component classes, there are about 100 to choose from. I love having so many options. People are what I would call friendly but not outgoing. Often you must make the first move. Once you start talking, everyone has been very nice. </p>

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<p>Oh God yes! </p>

<p>Good - in Government, Millstone. In Math, Maxwell, Perutz and Cudina. I’ve heard great things about Gonzales too. German/Dutch, Vanderheijden. Chemistry, Laude. Economics, Sadler. </p>

<p>Not so good - Philosophy, Sosa. German, Hickman. Astronomy, Dinerstein. Risk Management, Arnold.</p>

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<p>Thanks Fiyero for your time you have been great help. I will try to make it short as I can. I was reading about internal transfer for UT on their website. They require 24 hours in residence at UT to be eligible for internal transfer.</p>

<p>Questions for you: Since I have around 24 credits to PLAY with, which one would you suggest:</p>

<p>Spend one year at ACC, take core courses/ indicators and close to 24 apply to economics in UT ausitn and then internal transfer to McCoombs.</p>

<p>If I do that how would(which courses I would take) to satisfy 24 credit in residence requirement. How can I avoid wasting time until I get admitted to McCombs. Remember I would be in Economics, </p>

<p>Could I let my advisor know my intention of transferring to McCoombs, in first semester</p>

<p>would they be able to PICK OUT possible applicable courses which would be used in accounting as well</p>

<p>Should I split the lower level classes in between ACC and UT</p>

<p>any good professors in accounting/finance
Thanks once again for your help.</p>

<p>P.S. Fiyero are you a male/female. Please dont get any wrong idea, just curious to know</p>