Help Please! Alexandre?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Michigan
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<p>Hi, I'm currently a freshman in college and although I applied to ten schools to ensure I wound up somewhere I really liked, it seems as if I have failed. I am most likely going to transfer either at semester or next fall. Currently I attend a school ranked in the high 80s on USNews, although I believe it should be higher. (27 average ACT, tons of national merit people here) The school I am looking at the most right now is Michigan. I have a few questions.</p>

<p>Is it easier or harder to transfer to Michigan than original admissions? Especially since I am applying for Sophomore status and jot junior?</p>

<p>If I have a semester at the school I'm at now, and a semester at a community college, would that be worse than having two semesters here? If I stay here, there is no way I will be able to visit schools if I am planning on going back to school next fall. i would just have to go somewhere and pray that I like it. (like U of M, though i have already visited)</p>

<p>Does being an in-stater still help?</p>

<p>Is there a specific college within the university that is easiest to get into?</p>

<p>Any other top schools that are easier to transfer to than original admissions?</p>

<p>Finally, what are my chances? Last year I was rejected, after being deferred and waitlisted, as I watched several classmates that I believe I was just as competent as if not more get in. (I know you're not supposed to do that.)</p>

<p>Anyways, here are my stats.</p>

<p>High School Record-----Decent...I thought I went to a good high school, I know everyone says that, but I honestly think I did. I was not top 10%,(about 16th percentile.) Mostly As and Bs, some Cs. About 3.4 unweighted GPA. I was very involved. High School sucks. Screw *****y Chemistry teachers.</p>

<p>Test Scores---- ACT 30 SAT 2000</p>

<p>College: Right now I am taking 16 hours, including an intermediate language and a sophomore class. For this semester I am thinking I should get about a 3.6. That number could be as low as 3.4 or as high as 3.8 if I am going to be very realistic. I am trying to get involved, I'm going to do Big Brothers Big Sisters and might be joining a frat next semester, and I do marching band and pep band.</p>

<p>This brings up another question. Right now I am semi-struggling in a class. (79 first test, but they get harder.) I CANNOT get a C if I want to transfer to U of M. Should I withdraw? Would that be frowned upon? If I do, I would have only about 13 hours and a W on my transcript, I know that is less than they would like, but I would most likely have a GPA 3.8-4.0. If I stick it out and get a C, or god FORBID worse, I would probably have a GPA of 3.4, or maybe even 3.2 if I got two other Bs (though I don't think that will happen.) What do you think about this?</p>

<p>Anyways, I probably forgot some stuff, If anyone wants any additional information I will be glad to post it.</p>

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<p>bump...</p>

<p>anybody? please?</p>

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<p>Sorry, but this post has been up in the transfer forum and the general admission forum for a few days and hasn't gotten any responses. (Any that actually answered anything at least.) I figure I have the best shot in here. Plus, it sucks to be at a school you are unhappy at and are stressed about getting good grades so you can transfer. I'm just in a tough situation and I'm looking for answers.</p>

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<p>It is never wise to compare transfer admissions standards to freshman admissions standards. I'd say in most cases, both are equally competitive. Out of 24,000 undergrads at Michigan, only 3,000 are transfers. Each year, close to 3,000 transfer students apply and roughly 1,200 are admitted. Most of them are CC students from Michigan. Your high school record is find, as are your standardized tests. I have a couple of questions:</p>

<p>Are you currently a student in a Michigan institution or are you studying at a university in another state?</p>

<p>What is your intended major? Will you be applying to the college of LSA?</p>

<p>My recommendation would be that you do what it takes to get a 3.5 +GPA. If that means dropping a class, so be it, but it doesn't look great when you have a W. I would probably recommend you buckle down and really take the next 2 months to seal the deal. However, if you really feel that you cannot handle the current load and risk a 3.2 GPA as a result, drop the class.</p>

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<p>First of all, thanks for the reply.</p>

<p>I am from Michigan originally (where I went to high school) but I am attending a school out of state. (high 80s on USnews, however 1 in 10 kids here is a National Merit Winner)</p>

<p>Right now I am an econ major, but that might change, because the class I am struggling in is microeconomics. I don't know what I would change it to... possibly business, but then I would have to apply to Ross, and I hear that is harder to get into as a transfer. Most likely I would apply to LSA, as an undecided or something else, especially if it would give me the best chance of getting in. However I am tossing the idea around of applying to the School of Kinesiology to study sports management. Is this school more or less competetive than LSA?</p>

<p>Thanks Again.</p>

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<p>Well, nobody can advise you better than yourself. Only you know what you are capable of. Like I said, if you want a good shot at transfering to Michigan, you want a 3.5+ GPA. And don't apply to the college of Kinesiology. That is intended purely for people interested in the field...primarily division I athletes. Students who apply to it just because they think it may be easier to get into generally get turned down.</p>

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<p>Are my chances better applying to LSA rather than Ross? Any intended major that would improve my chances? Does it hurt that I am attending a school out of state? Does it hurt that I am going to be a sophomore, not a junior?</p>

<p>If I get a 3.5 plus G.P.A. with my board scores, what are my chances of getting in? i was rejected as a freshman.</p>

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<p>Does it help that I am attending a well-known high quality university rather than a CC?</p>

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<p>The university you attend makes a difference, but not that much of a difference. And I recommend you stick to applying to LSA. Ross is practically impossible to get into from another university and your struggles with Econ tells me Ross will not look upon your application favorably.</p>

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<p>seriously? I am spending a ton of money going to an out of state school when it will only help a little? If I went to CC next semester that wouldn't hurt my chances much then? And it would be a lot easier to get As! ugh. Will I still get treated as an in-state student in the admissions?</p>

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<p>seriously? I am spending a ton of money going to an out of state school when it will only help a little? Why is that? Isn't it pretty obvious that classes are much more challenging at a quality university than at a CC, and should carry more weight? If I went to CC next semester that wouldn't hurt my chances much then? And it would be a lot easier to get As, while saving money! ugh. Will I still get treated as an in-state student in the admissions? Again, are my chances good if i get a 3.5+?</p>

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<p>State unversities, even the Michigan's, Cals and UVas of the world, have an obligation to their own state and that is why CC students are given special consideration. This said, CC students are expected to maintain higher GPAs than students attending elite universities because it is generally acknowledged that maintaining a high GPA at a CC is easier than at an elite university. However, if I understood correctly, you do not attend an elite university at present. At any rate, do not worry too much about other applicants and about finding the "easiest" way to get in. Do your best with your current classes and apply to the college of LSA when the time is right.</p>

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<p>So are you saying that my chances of getting in next year would even be BETTER if I went to a CC next semester? I am from Michigan, my parents have always paid taxes in Michigan, and I went to high school in Michigan. Doesn't that make them obligated to me too?</p>

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<p>Your questions are impossible to answer with any accuracy. You cannot assign values to your questions and as such, cannot be given answers that will adhere to any quantitative norm. In short, you are worrying about things that are out of your control. All you can control right now is your grades. Get over a 3.5 GPA and your chances will be reasonably good.</p>

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<p>Hmm, still don't see why they would penalize me for going to a challenging school out of state rather than staying at home. And no I am not worrying about things I cannot control. I can control where I go to school next semester, whether it is a CC or where I am now. And from what you've send it wouns as if a CC not only won't hurt me but it might help me.</p>

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<p>lol, college guy and I are alike with the oos school.</p>

<p>I hate my Microecon class. I can see myself getting a C in it. </p>

<p>Ummm, it's hard to say what school you're at, but i'd say it's Marquette, as complaining about the price, you mentioned 1 in 10 are national merit (which basically rules out publics), and you said that the ACT was a 27, meaning a midwest school where the ACT is more prevalant. Also, I don't think you went to Texas (Baylor) or Massachusetts (Clark) for school. Please tell me i'm right. I don't know why you're hiding this anyways.</p>

<p>There are other schools than Michigan too. Remember that, you don't have to transfer to UM for SM/business. North Carolina, Texas, Indiana, Minnesota, Maryland, Ohio State, Florida, and Texas A&M all offer business/sport management combos that would be very attractive to employers. Anyways, as for your chances, it's VERY hard to get into Ross as a transfer. Probably need around a 3.8. Also, the SM program I believe is a 2 year program so maybe they won't let you apply for it this year. Very competitve freshman year too, did you apply for this freshman year? I know tons of kids (counting myself as one) that found out how selective the SM program is. Your best bet is LSA undecided. I believe you can apply for both Ross and LSA, as I don't think the Ross application is affiliated with the Michigan app. Once you get into LSA, you're probably going to have a better chance to get into the SM program than you would as a transfer from another school.</p>

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<p>Thank you, that was helpful.</p>

<p>No, I'm not at any of those schools, nice try though. :)</p>

<p>Yeah, it's true, there are other schools than Michigan. The problem is there will be no time to visit them. It would have to be in the summer when classes aren't going on, unless i take a semester off in the fall.</p>

<p>I think I might go to a CC next semester, and then transfer. Because according to Alexandre, Michigan, somehow, with their bizzare and obsurd admission techniques, would look favorably upon that. I would probably apply to LSA as an undecided, but if I get a high G.P.A. I might try Ross too. I figure I can always transfer as a cross-school transfer if I get into LSA.</p>

<p>Once again, I have no idea why Michigan should choose to penalize me for taking a risk and traveling 1000 miles from home to attend a challenging school completely out of my comfort zone, but that's how admissions works in Ann Arbor.</p>

<p>Has anyone heard anything about Wisconsin? (Madison) I know I might look there, at Texas, and UNC. Possibly also Wash U (although admissions are real tough there.) Any other/smaller schools to look at? Thanks</p>

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<p>Collegeguy, state universities are obligated to their In-state CC students, many of which can only earn Associate degrees at their current institutions. That does not mean you will be penalized. I will say it again, if you take care of business, maintain a solid 3.5+ GPA and apply properly, your chances are reasonably good. Apply to LSA because it is the largest taker of transfers and once at Michigan, if you can maintain a high GPA, try to transfer into Ross.</p>

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<p>Don't go to a CC next semester. It won't give you that much of an advantage compared to staying at your current school. It's not worth it, do well at your current school, and your chances will be good. You aren't putting yoruself at a disadvantage by applying from where you are at right now. Wisconsin doesn't have SM, if you are looking there, neither does Wash U. I don't know how bad you want sports management, but neither school offers the degree.</p>

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<p>not that bad, honestly... mainly I want business. Honestly a school that offers a great deal of majors would be great, (including maybe engineering), as I do not know exactly what I want. Right now I am leaning towards business, though, and I find sports management interesting. The negative part about a place like U of M compared to a small school is the programs (such as engineering and business) are a lot more competetive, and as for double-majoring, that is much more difficult. Time for college hunt round two...</p>