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<p>Ok so here is the deal -</p>

<p>I have been slacking off a bit. I am a smart student in my opinion. </p>

<p>Here is the academic situation - I am a junior in high school my gpa is probably an 88/100 for high school. I have taken 0 APs but have taken honors chem honors global honors algerbra II in my sophomore year. In my junior year (this year) I am taking senior math Pre calc, Honors Bio, normal U.S. history and normal english. I have 4 years of french. My senior I am taking AP Statistics, Honors Calculus, Normal Government, Normal English.</p>

<p>Extra Curics - Varsity basketball sophomore, junior, senior years. Will be a captain as a senior
- 2 state championships in Basketball sophomore year and junior year :)
- Varsity lacrosse senior year
- JV lacrosse JV Football
- Will have 30 hours of community service
- I don't have many ECs besides these but am defintly willing to put in the<br>
work.</p>

<p>SAT - 1700/2400
- Need to take SAT subject tests im assuming?
- Open to taking the ACT
- Willing to take SAT over and over and over....</p>

<p>College - I want to go somewhere in California
Top 5 choices are UCLA, UCSD, Berkeley, UC santa barbara, or USC
- UCSD is my 5th option knowing I have a good chance for basketball since they are D2 have met the coach played with the team etc...
- Do not want to go to UCSD unless other 4 colleges fail
- looking for a good party scene or whatever
- enjoy drinking/marijuana.....am i allowed to say that?
- I know you go to college to get an education but also to have fun :)</p>

<p>Bio - Live in Syracuse, New York
- Does out of state hurt me or help me?</p>

<p>I am willing to retake SAT, take ACT, take Subject Tests.</p>

<p>What do I need to do to get into Berkeley, UCLA, USC, or UCsantabarbara? Or did I already completely F*** myself over?</p>

<p>Please help I do appreciate it! :)</p>

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<p>How did you get a 1700 on the first part of the SAT? And if you really got a 2400 on the SAT, why would you need to take it again?</p>

<p>And what is up with all of the smileys?</p>

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<p>He wrote that he got a 1700 out of 2400.</p>

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<p>I like smilys sorry if that upsets you :slight_smile: and yes I meant 1700 out of 2400 sorry for the confusion.</p>

<p>HELP PLEASE.</p>

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<p>I would focus on SD and start speaking to thaat coach. He’s likely to have made many of his picks and you need to be working on this over the summer. Getting recruited would by far be your best shot at one of thee schools.</p>

<p>The average GPA at Berkeley and UCLA are 4.2 and most of the accepted have taken their schools hardest courses. Their average SAT score is 2050. The UC’s are looking for full paying OOS students so UCSB could be a possibility if you can raise ypou SAT scores 200 points and do well on the II’s. USC is looking for stong grades in tough classes and a 2100.</p>

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<p>I like UC-Santa Barbara (especially if you like alcohol/drugs), if you don’t get recruited at UC-San Diego</p>

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<p>UCSD has historically had a pretty simple formula. See if you can calculate how many points you can expect, and how that compares to recent admitted students. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ucsd.edu/prospective-students/admissions/undergraduate-admissions/freshmen/process.html[/url]”>http://www.ucsd.edu/prospective-students/admissions/undergraduate-admissions/freshmen/process.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>From what I recall, a 1700 on SAT’s does not bode well, even with a 4.0 UC GPA, but there’s points for leadrrship, adversity, etc, if that applies. For UCLA & UCB, it’s “holistic”, but many of your competitors will have all that UCSD requires and THEN some. OR they may just have that certain something… My D did not get into UCLA with a 4.0 plus GPA, 2000+ SAT’s, plenty of EC’s (and URM, not that that really means anything, unless perhaps you are also first gen, and had adversity). And that was last year. Who knows what next year will bring, or if it will be worth 00S money to your folks.</p>

<p>And yes, I believe subject tests will still be required for graduates of HS class '10. Maybe not the class of 2012. For VC’s also be aware of the “A-G” requirements, and don’t forget the “Visual and Performing Arts”.</p>

<p>hmom, is that OOS advantage documented anywhere?</p>

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<p>you need to take 2 SAT subject tests in two different subject areas</p>

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<p>I know my SAT isn’t great I am going to retake it, what score would I have to get to have a chance at getting admitted to Berkeley, UCLA, or USC?</p>

<p>Also an 88 what does that convert to on the GPA scale out of 5? Is it like a 4.0? 4.2?</p>

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<p>you definitely need at least a 1900 on the SAT to be competitive, shoot for a 2000 if you want to improve your chances</p>

<p>an 88 converts to a 4.1 or 4.2 on the 5 point scale at my school</p>

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<p>With those stats, you will not get into a UCal from out of state. sorry, you won’t. you need to find some other schools.</p>

<p>don’t describe yourself as a stoner. it’s not good. especially if you’re looking for athletic recruitment. nobody wants a troublemaker on their team.</p>

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<p>Most schools go out of 4.0 though.</p>

<p>For Berkeley and UCLA, give yourself a 4.0 each A, 3.0 for each B, and 2.0 for each C. Then divide by the number of classes. That will give you your unweighted UC GPA.</p>

<p>You will probably want atleast a 2150 on your SAT, or a 32 on the ACT.</p>

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<p>Can your parents pay full price at a UC school? Have you discussed this with them?</p>

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<p>“I know my SAT isn’t great I am going to retake it, what score would I have to get to have a chance at getting admitted to Berkeley, UCLA,”</p>

<p>Just to be clear, I’m not saying your SAT is “great” or not. I’m just saying UCB and UCLA require more than a “great” SAT. If I can link the profile of the UCLA freshman class, I will. </p>

<p>Here it is…</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_fr/Frosh_Prof08.htm[/url]”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_fr/Frosh_Prof08.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You can increase your odds, but it will NOT be easy to predict success.</p>

<p>“For Berkeley and UCLA, give yourself a 4.0 each A, 3.0 for each B, and 2.0 for each C. Then divide by the number of classes. That will give you your unweighted UC GPA.”</p>

<p>Good advice, but for the most part, only count the “A-G” classes. You can get extra points for AP’s, up to a certain point, but OOS honors classes probably wont get extra points.</p>

<p>Not seeing points for sports or being recruited at UCS. Not sure how that works for D2, but I’d love to know. My son will be in the same spot in in '11, and I didn’t think sports counted for much unless you were being recruited.</p>

<p>BTW, there’s a new forum for California colleges.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/california-colleges/[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/california-colleges/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And for UC’s</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-general/[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-general/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Price doesn’t matter can pay full tuiton.</p>

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<p>Your 88 converts to about a 3.3 on a 4.0 scale. (The posters above are not referring to a 5.0 scale.) The UC’s use “UC GPA” <a href=“http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/paths_to_adm/freshman/scholarship_reqs.html[/url]”>http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/paths_to_adm/freshman/scholarship_reqs.html&lt;/a&gt; which is on a 4.0 scale, academic classes (A-G) only, 10th and 11th grade only, adding 1 gpa point for AP/IB classes. (OOS cannot add points for honors classes, only AP/IB.)</p>

<p>To be eligible for admission OOS to any of the 9 undergraduate UCs, you would need at least a 3.4 UC GPA. Recruited athletes can sometimes be admitted by “Eligiblity by Exception,” but it is rare. Use the Eligibility Calculator in the box at the top right of the page on the link above for information on your eligibility. Information on eligibility by exception: [University</a> of California - Admissions](<a href=“http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/paths_to_adm/exception.html]University”>http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/paths_to_adm/exception.html)</p>

<p>Also be aware that OOS students pay $45,000+/year at the UCs.</p>

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<p>also work on getting that GPA up,</p>

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<p>To assist you in determining eligibility, here is a GPA calculator from the CSU Mentor: <a href=“https://secure.csumentor.edu/planning/high_school/gpa_calculator.asp[/url]”>https://secure.csumentor.edu/planning/high_school/gpa_calculator.asp&lt;/a&gt; The UCs and CSUs are completely separate, but they use the same GPA calculations. Remember, only A-G classes taken in the 10th and 11th grades are calculated, and for OOS, only AP/IB classes count as “honors.” Here is a description of the A-G requirements: [University</a> of California - a-g Guide](<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/a-gGuide/ag/a-g/a-g_reqs.html]University”>http://www.ucop.edu/a-gGuide/ag/a-g/a-g_reqs.html)</p>

<p>***Students accepted at UCLA and UCSD typically FAR exceed the minimum requirements.</p>

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<p>"…also work on getting that GPA up, "</p>

<p>But UC GPA’s are calculated based on Sophomore and Junior years. Rigor of senior curriculam is factored in, and senior GPA is factored in if your “on the bubble” and asked to submit a supplemental ( or something like that) application.</p>

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<p>seriously, if you haven’t considered yourself able or willing to handle any AP level courses in HS, you will not survive at a place like Berkley or UCLA. you can’t simply change that by deciding to add a few AP courses. you are simply not cut out for such an intense education.</p>