<p>There's another way. But I don't think it works anymore. I have a personal sotry of someone who got rejected at <em>__very reputabe school. That same person went to Carnegie-Mellon for a semester, and then showed up at _</em>_very reputable school in january with a check in his hand (covering the second semester's tuition). He told the dean of admissions "come on, somebody had to have dropped out last semester! Here's the second semester's tuition. . ." and got accepted. Lol, funny how things work that way. I know we dont all have a tuition check ready to go, but at least it's worth a try if you do.
By the way, when I say UPS I mean that as in the United Parcel Service and their company color, brown. I noticed that since it had a 'U' at the front, it was easily mistaken for some university.
just in case.
Never been on livejournal before, think I'll give it a try...</p>
<p>We need to form a union and storm down to the admissions office begging and pleading. Maybe then they will see our desire(that's what I think they missed in my app).</p>
<p>Didn't you already say that?
:)</p>
<p>yes, I know I have become delierious in my worried/anxious state. Now I am gotten to a repetitive state where I sould somewhat like a broken record. A broken record who just started working on studying for her AP's but a broken record nonetheless.</p>
<p>lauren, try to chill. I want Brown too but don't let acceptance define you. Wash U is a great school.</p>
<p>You guys should go to Brown on May 1 and camp out on the main green. Picket, attract attention, sing kum-bay-ya...refuse to leave unless granted admittance. Threaten to boil a giant pot of cabbage during the graduation ceremony.</p>
<p>I am not letting it define me, it is just hard to deal with having to give up something that means so much to me and is such a huge part of my life(rowing). And if I get into Brown I won't have to sacrifice that.</p>
<p>are you registered with the IROW College Recruiting Clearinghouse?</p>
<p>Yes, but I registered with a worse time than I actually am at. I basically dropped almost 30 seconds in the past 5 months, so that I should be at National Selection Camp for the Junior National Team this summer.</p>
<p>Did you notify the Brown coaches of that? (It seems like you would have, but just asking.)</p>
<p>I have been calling them and they never respond to me via e-mail or phone. I actually just got off my cell phone leaving them a message and hope/pray that they will call me back. On my messages I told them my time and I figure that if they can do anything at this point I should probably be the person they push for, if they will ever talk to me. I do know a girl from my school that rows for them, maybe I should try and talk to her about getting them to support me.</p>
<p>It sounds as though you are very self-assured about how much the coaches love you. Two deep concerns:
1.) If you think about it - why would Brown waitlist someone who they wanted for their Crew team? It's not like your academics were holding you back from getting into Brown, so you were probably waitlisted because Crew was not a significant part of your application. I'm guessing that next year's roster is filled up. When you look at it (the roster), only 4 seniors will be graduating this year, leading me to believe that there are only about 4 open spots for next year's team. I go back to my original point - if the Crew team NEEDed you, you wouldn't have (probably) gotten wait-listed.
2.) My personal story - I'm no Federer or future tennis star, but I do play tennis at a national level with a good amount of success. Seperately, I play a few international events here and there (during the summer of course) . . .
I'm giving out this information as context for my short story.
I was in constant contact with the tennis coach(es) at Brown. I visited them, had a chat, and, as a good applicant, kept up constant email contact with them throughout the admissions process (I applied ED and was deferred so the application process was imaginably quite lengthy). I was assured many times that I was a good fit for Brown, and that I should keep the coaches posted with all of my results, etc, etc. Now, they weren't actively recruiting me, but they were definitey receptive to my desire to play for Brown. The coach even began signing his emails with "Go Bruno!"
I was rejected.
They wine you, and they dine you, and then they (in the immortal words of Snoop) drop you like you're hot. I think the coaches acted spotlessly, and I think that they are both terrific people, honestly. It's just that they had no room for me, and I guess they didn't really want me too badly. I think they would have replied to your emails at least . . .
g-night :)</p>
<p>that's not to say you can't get off the waitlist, but you may not be able to row for a year or two if you do get in . . .</p>
<p>Rowing actually works differently. They have Freshman boats that have to be filled of novice boats, and to help their whole perspective they try to fill the top freshman boat with recruits and the second boat with walk ons. I was "wined and dined" at Yale and rejected after an early deferral. I don't think that I will get in, I am just trying to talk to the coaches, b/c I know that my times are about equivalent to other recruits. I know from other people who were recruited, but decided not to attend that they are very difficult to pin down and get to reply. They may not want me, and they could have gotten a full 9 better recruits in, but I just want them to respond to me. The coaches were not aware of how much I dropped my time when I applied because my application went in before I dropped. I may not be good enough, or I may just be too late for them to support me I am just trying to contact them and see if anything can be done.</p>
<p>Laurenemma, i assume you are a girl (w/ the name Lauren)</p>
<p>Those freshman boats, if my knowledge is correct, were implemented to help with title IX, while I'm sure being a really really good rower is hard, being able to function as rower cannot be that difficult, (I used to whitewater kayak alot, and I remember being one of the fastest, I know crew is different) My point is that I was always under the impression those boats didnt matter much, since they were there only to keep title IX supporters happy. Thus, as mark said, you weren't needed, and thus you were probly considered just a reg applicant, and w/o being a rower, earned yourself a spot on the waitlist. I would keep trying, but I would stop trying with the coaches, they probly won't help you anymore.</p>
<p>Lauren: I wouldn't stop with the coaches. Statistically, you won't get in unless something changes, so really, you've got nothing to lose, and it might make all the difference.</p>
<p>yeah, I'm in your shoes Lauren, as a wait listed applicant from the same city. We're obviously competing against each other (I imagine) and even I say go for it.</p>
<p>shiny metal</p>
<p>yeah, keep trying, but have realistic expectations with rowing. Priority 1 is getting in, priority 2 is rowing. studdent-athlete, not athlete-student. Impress them with your most current transcript or that play you wrote that's going to feature in theaters nation-wide next month . . .
THEN try the coaches. You'll probably have to try out next fall and see if you can walk onto the team.
and they'll probably be more impressed with the academics than with the rowing (considering the fact that their rowing program is the "winingest" crew team in D1 I believe).
back to w.a. . . .
silver mining</p>
<p>I am most definitely a "student-athlete", I turned down a rowing school(BU) that wasn't as excellent academically for a more academic school(Wash U).
I was considered as just a regular student w/o rowing in my application.
I will not have to try out no matter what because they don't cut, kids just quit b/c they can't handle it. Also if you have rowing experience you will practice with the recruits, or at least be considered for practicing with them. The coach called me yesterday in the middle of class, and said he would try me again later. Title IX may be the cause of the implementation of freshman boats, but they are trying to recruit good rowers to make their varsity boats faster in future years. And the way they got the winningest team is aided by recruiting top Junior rowers and getting them into the top boats early on in their college career.</p>
<p>Brownsurfer, one good thing to note is the girl that got in to Brown from my school is likely not to attend.</p>